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Old 07-25-2017, 07:33 AM   #38
countmeworthy
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Default Re: Are The Local Churches Growing?

well... there are 150 psalms! Music to God's Holy Ears and heart and.............
Paul said to the Ephesians and Colossians:
Ephesians 5:19
speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord;

Colossians 3:16
Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

Paul emphasized the psalms, hymns and spiritual songs TWICE. It must be very important then. When Jesus would say Verily, Verily or Truly, Truly.. it was very important.

As for the 5 offices... imho... that was the beginning of man made religion. Never understood why those offices had to be mentioned. Now people, men, are 'ordained' apostles, bishops, evangelists, prophets, shepherds.

Of course the only 'apostle' of the age was Lee. I know Elsie has deacons. But no bishops or prophets. Why is that? I know there used to be evangelists and shepherds at least in my day in the LC. I don't know about now since everyone cowtows the HWMR, and the footnotes of the Recovery version which is used only by Elsie. There may be a few people here and there who have bought it on line..but even Biblegateway doesn't have it in their list of translations.



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Originally Posted by Evangelical View Post
As important as music is to worship the bible never calls it a ministry nor a spiritual gift or one of the 5 offices. It has been elevated to an importance God never intended meanwhile spiritual gifts Paul said to be important like prophesy are denied. It doesnt rate a mention by Paul in the list of spiritual gifts. Paul no where appointed worship leaders and such. No mention of roving minstrels anywhere in the new testament.

Today musicians can be found aplenty but prophets are rare.
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