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Originally Posted by Igzy
I've noticed when the LCM says "submission" they really mean "obedience." But these words don't mean the same thing.
The difference between "submission" and "obedience" is that "submission" allows for dissent for reasons of conscience. There is no teaching in the Bible that forces followers of leaders to compromise what they feel God is directly commanding them to do. We are to obey the Bible (interpreted wisely) absolutely, but not leaders.
Drake's story of his problem he took to a leader is an example of the insipid way the LCM allows for "dissent." In their view if you disagree with leadership strongly you can go to them so they can convince you they are right. Once they feel they've graciously explained things well enough to you, you are expected to agree and/or shut up. If you continue to disagree it shows you are "not under the Head" and are a rebel. There is no scenario in the LCM where you can honestly say, "I must obey my conscience and part ways" and the leaders respect that. As far as they are concerned that is rebellion and back-sliding.
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A quote from the HWFMR the locality I was visiting last Sunday morning:
"The most important task for each of us is to put ourselves into God's hand in a quiet, patient, prayerful, consecrated, and obedient way and wholeheartedly seek after His leading."
So what if God's leading isn't corresponding to what the leading brother's desire? You would be marked as a rebel.
Is anyone so bold to say the elders/co-workers who left in the late 80's or in more recent years were no longer under the headship of Christ? I can't say that because I believe they were. It just so happened their obedience to His leading was no longer compatible to the direction LSM was taking.