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Old 07-05-2017, 03:33 PM   #65
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Default Re: NIGEL TOMES: LSM’s ‘Authority & Submission’ Tampers with the Trinity

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The point you were making was that Evangelical should be understood as one that is unable and unwilling to listen to reason. Yours and others in this forum. So, rather than deal with the argument based on its merits, find agreement with him where it may be found, agree to disagree when you do, you instead engaged in an ad hominem attack, a fallacy in argumentation. By casting Evangelical as afraid and taken captive you can dismiss his points. He can't help himself, you see.
It's not an ad hominem attack if it is true. And it manifestly is. And the reason I know is because I've lived it. Ohio lived it and many others have. We have spoken of our experiences. You have not respected them. We have told you of history you seem to have hidden from. You have had no reply. You seem to be somewhat in denial, to say the least.

We've given you chances to demonstrate otherwise. Yet again and again when the chips were down, you have not stepped up and been completely honest. Like I said, tell me one major thing you disagree with Witness Lee about. I dare you. Are you afraid, or do you really agree with him on everything?

Do you think completely agreeing with a man is normal? Do you think thousands of people completely agreeing with him is normal? Tell us why. Make the case for this being normal behavior.

Do you think God is going to punish you if you disagree publicly with him? Isn't that a fear of yours? Then admit it. Are you also afraid of admitting you are afraid? If everyone should be afraid of disagreeing with Lee then why not tell us all plainly why that is so, instead of manifestly acting that way and then pretending you are not.

What is it about Witness Lee that causes you to behave that way? Is it him or just the authority doctrine? Or both? Either way it seems very irrational to me. And like I said, I know, because I used to think the way you do. So when I say what it is, I'm not talking out of my rear, and it's not ad hominem.

NOTE: This is very much on topic for this thread. Because this is what the authority doctrine comes down to--fear of anything but complete obedience to and protection of the authority figure.

This is the laboratory. You are one of the test cases. Guess what your case is demonstrating.
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