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IDon'tKnow · 03-30-2009, 06:54 PM

On the other forum I noticed a thread named Public Lee vs Private Lee (or something like that) anyway one of the things which I noticed in the thread was the idea that the private Lee was not like the like the Godly person he portrayed in public meetings. Anyway the immediate thought which came to my mind was "but I got a negative impression of him from watching public meetings." Things such as going into 20 minute diatribes about how none of you knew anything about the all-inclusive Christ until "I" came along, followed by talks on how we shoulded seek our own glory (and how he'd never done this (see previous statement)), then their was the time when he was talking about the difference between a good natural man and a god-man and of course he decided to use a young sister in the meeting whom he named and even had the camera do a close up on, as an example of a copper good natural man.

On the otherside of the coin we also see poster on the other forum who are exposed to events such as Daystar and still religously defend Witness.

Also thier is the fact that while in the ministry their is definitely good healthy things their also seems to be alot of spiritual sounding stuff yet when you look at it deeper it means nothing (there was an example of this on the other forum pertaining to grace) and possibly without much scriptural support (difference between divine life and divine nature, If there was scriptural support for his teachings about this it was probably thin and did little to mask the fact that it seemed to only be vain knowledge anyway), to the downright poisonous (spiritual authority).

Anyway what I came away from this with is the realization that I saw the negative as well as the positive in Witness Lee as well as in his ministry while I was there. I saw that in someways the ministry was off and the Witness Lee was also off. Yet at the same time I willfully made rationalizations so that this person could be the minister of the age (That one never sat well with me). I made these rationalizations because as long as I kept them I could remained joined to God's unique move. I kept these rationalizations because if I were to let them go I feared I would be under God's judgement and be taken away from God's unique move. I relinquished these rationalizations because (amongst other things) at the End God was making it clear to me that at the end I wouldn't be able to blame it on Lee and if I should fear punishment it should be for not following His voice not for not following what somebody tells me is His voice.

Anyway I was curious to know how much this matched the experience of others. Did others here read the life studies, attended the conferences, watched the video messages, and get the sense that something is off here. What I mean is how much can be put down to a different private and public persona and how much is just simply a willingness as a group to turn a blind eye to the obvious inconsistencies in order to be in God's unique move?

03-30-2009, 06:54 PM	#7
IDon'tKnow Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 67	Re: My Story On the other forum I noticed a thread named Public Lee vs Private Lee (or something like that) anyway one of the things which I noticed in the thread was the idea that the private Lee was not like the like the Godly person he portrayed in public meetings. Anyway the immediate thought which came to my mind was "but I got a negative impression of him from watching public meetings." Things such as going into 20 minute diatribes about how none of you knew anything about the all-inclusive Christ until "I" came along, followed by talks on how we shoulded seek our own glory (and how he'd never done this (see previous statement)), then their was the time when he was talking about the difference between a good natural man and a god-man and of course he decided to use a young sister in the meeting whom he named and even had the camera do a close up on, as an example of a copper good natural man. On the otherside of the coin we also see poster on the other forum who are exposed to events such as Daystar and still religously defend Witness. Also thier is the fact that while in the ministry their is definitely good healthy things their also seems to be alot of spiritual sounding stuff yet when you look at it deeper it means nothing (there was an example of this on the other forum pertaining to grace) and possibly without much scriptural support (difference between divine life and divine nature, If there was scriptural support for his teachings about this it was probably thin and did little to mask the fact that it seemed to only be vain knowledge anyway), to the downright poisonous (spiritual authority). Anyway what I came away from this with is the realization that I saw the negative as well as the positive in Witness Lee as well as in his ministry while I was there. I saw that in someways the ministry was off and the Witness Lee was also off. Yet at the same time I willfully made rationalizations so that this person could be the minister of the age (That one never sat well with me). I made these rationalizations because as long as I kept them I could remained joined to God's unique move. I kept these rationalizations because if I were to let them go I feared I would be under God's judgement and be taken away from God's unique move. I relinquished these rationalizations because (amongst other things) at the End God was making it clear to me that at the end I wouldn't be able to blame it on Lee and if I should fear punishment it should be for not following His voice not for not following what somebody tells me is His voice. Anyway I was curious to know how much this matched the experience of others. Did others here read the life studies, attended the conferences, watched the video messages, and get the sense that something is off here. What I mean is how much can be put down to a different private and public persona and how much is just simply a willingness as a group to turn a blind eye to the obvious inconsistencies in order to be in God's unique move?