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Originally Posted by Indiana
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Hi Drake. Speaking of faulty reasoning and inaccurate representations, I gave you opportunity to critique my website lordsrecovery.us and you agreed to do it. But did not get back to me. But then neither did Ron Kangas when I asked him to explain himself after his false representation of me publicly in an international conference. Neither has any blending brother or elder been able to explain to me or to the churches why I am not received by them in the churches.
Nigel accurately exposed a wrong teaching by Nee on Noah's curse. He explained accurately also why LSM needed to correct this error in their publications. They have ignored him. But that exposure of a clearly inaccurate teaching of Nee's caused me to look closely at LC teaching on the covering of Noah, which is a teaching that bolsters their idea of authority and submission, which has bred the most destructive practice in the LC and borne its most egregious fruit. And, it all began with Nee in Shanghai in his post-suspension ministry when spiritual authority was foremost on his mind, and submission to it was imperative.
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Brother Nigel,
It is said that the best way to help people understand the problem of radical Islam is to inform them of the true character of their leader, Mohammed. We can learn about him and their belief system by studying carefully his thoughts and practices - since their belief system originated with him, his ideas, and his actions.
A current co-worker with Stephen Kaung (former Nee coworker) points out that the Bible is a truthful book revealing the true condition of God's people - including its leaders!
“......Thus, we see the twelve forefathers of the Israelite nation born from such a chaotic and disarrayed family situation (Jacob's). Usually when we talk about our ancestors we always speak of them in such grandiose and mystical fashion. The Chinese always praise virtue and conceal evil, so no matter how horrid our ancestor was you never speak of it; you only mention their greatness. Thank God that the Bible is the only honest thing. I’ve read much history and autobiographies, never was there a book more truthful than the Bible. The Holy Spirit recorded everything just as it was. Even as people we always try to show the good and conceal the bad, we wish for others to see our good side: how we love the Lord, how wonderful and blissful our family is. The Bible isn’t so, it tells it like it is, this is how real the Bible is. Many religious books are so hypocritical, they obscure the evils. Thank our God for the Bible is the most truthful book.
"In reality, the history of the Israelite forefathers was so despicable and unsightly. Brothers and sisters, when the Lord Jesus was on earth He was true and He desires for us to be as well: if it is, then let it be so. We ought to be honest, there’s no need to be fake or hypocritical. But I also understand that if we are completely real, we’ll likely offend others, and if we see something good in others we like to compliment them. We all enjoy this type of treatment, but the Bible says otherwise. Some may find it amusing when they read about Jacob’s family, but it is imperative for us to see the honesty and truth behind it. The Bible describes some events in great detail so that we may understand the true condition.”
Some thoughts:
Not many in the Local Churches would think that Watchman Nee could have been seriously wrong in any of his teachings or impure in motive or intention in any significant way in the church life; yet, our concepts about our Local Church "father" were greatly altered when we heard about the Watchman Nee that Lily Hsu knew in Shanghai.
The exposure of his over-the-top teachings on authority and submission were eye-opening to me and I felt that his exposure would be key to understanding their history, and certain crucial problems that plague them today.
Your exposure of his exposition on Noah's curse opens the way for full examination of his teaching on the covering of Noah, which is a major component of his teachings on submission to deputy authority.
Now, his teaching you brought up on the triune God becomes the penultimate and leading error to address on the weightiest of issues - authority and submission in the Local Churches.