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Oregon · 03-15-2009, 08:04 AM

I appreciate the matter of the separate consciousness’s and will’s. Those are good points that have been made. The problem I have with this is that eventually what you really have is three Gods…..yet we Christians dare not utter such blasphemy so we have to come up with some sort of mysterious definition of how these three are really only one.

Groups like the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Mormons however just flat out deny the trinity altogether and don’t have a problem with trying to mesh this thing together somehow.

Take for example a few verses in John’s gospel.

John 16:28 “I come forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.”

John 8:29 “He that sent me is with me”

John 10:38 “…that the Father is in me, and I in Him.”

OK…..Where is the Father? Is he in heaven while Christ is on earth or is he with Christ while he is on earth or is He in Christ while he is on earth. If the Father that sent Christ is with Him and in Him than why does he say that he leaves the world to go to the Father?

Just some added thoughts for this conversation...

Here’s an additional thought I have had. At what point in time did the disciples make a switch in their understanding concerning God’s composition so to say. I mean you have a monotheistic faith…..Judaism…..that believes in only one God. Then these ones come into contact with Christ and receive the revelation that “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God”. Then they receive the baptism of the Spirit at a later point. Now…..what was going on inside of their heads concerning God? Was there only one God as they had previously believed? How did the Son and the Spirit fit into the “one God” view.

Where did this concept of the three in one God come from. I hope you understand my question here.

03-15-2009, 08:04 AM	#18
Oregon Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 67	Re: This is the Witness Lee that I remember I appreciate the matter of the separate consciousness’s and will’s. Those are good points that have been made. The problem I have with this is that eventually what you really have is three Gods…..yet we Christians dare not utter such blasphemy so we have to come up with some sort of mysterious definition of how these three are really only one. Groups like the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Mormons however just flat out deny the trinity altogether and don’t have a problem with trying to mesh this thing together somehow. Take for example a few verses in John’s gospel. John 16:28 “I come forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.” John 8:29 “He that sent me is with me” John 10:38 “…that the Father is in me, and I in Him.” OK…..Where is the Father? Is he in heaven while Christ is on earth or is he with Christ while he is on earth or is He in Christ while he is on earth. If the Father that sent Christ is with Him and in Him than why does he say that he leaves the world to go to the Father? Just some added thoughts for this conversation... Here’s an additional thought I have had. At what point in time did the disciples make a switch in their understanding concerning God’s composition so to say. I mean you have a monotheistic faith…..Judaism…..that believes in only one God. Then these ones come into contact with Christ and receive the revelation that “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God”. Then they receive the baptism of the Spirit at a later point. Now…..what was going on inside of their heads concerning God? Was there only one God as they had previously believed? How did the Son and the Spirit fit into the “one God” view. Where did this concept of the three in one God come from. I hope you understand my question here.