03-14-2009, 08:16 PM
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Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον For God So Loved The World
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Re: This is the Witness Lee that I remember
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Originally Posted by Igzy
...does the Son have a consciousness of Himself that is different than His consciousness of the Father?
So saying one Person is the other, in such a direct way, as Lee did, doesn't really work, does it? Which may be why the fathers didn't use such language.
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I think having a separate will is even a stronger indication then consciousness, which is why I brought up this:
"My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will." (Matt 26:39)
In Lee’s theology the Lord Jesus should have either said “as I will” or maybe “as we will”. What he said was “yet not as I will”. He had a will but chose not to exercise it, but rather deferred to the will of the Father. To say that “the Son who prays is the Father who listens” denigrates and disrespects this great sacrifice of will by the Son of God. Actually, He was an example to us in this regard (cf: the “Lord’s prayer”… “Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. 'Your kingdom come. Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven.)
“Saying one person is the other…doesn’t really work, does it?” Again I would go even further and say that, not only does it not work, repeating this kind of thing can do much harm. No, the fathers didn’t use such language and neither should we.
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