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Old 06-11-2017, 08:24 AM   #1298
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Default Re: Politics and the Church

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You do realize that any Russian interference or collusion in our presidential election impugns Obama and the Democrats more than anyone.
And your point is? Are you saying if there was outside interference we should cover it up to protect Obama et al? Bahahahaha ... if so let 'em all take the fall, including Trump. We're not America if we allow outside state nations to influence our elections. And then our representatives won't be ours and won't be representing us. It doesn't matter to me at all, whose finger prints are on this.

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They were in power, they were entrusted to protect the sanctity of the process.
Y'all do know, I presume, what they say about power?

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If Mueller finds evidence of Russian influence it will be the fault of the Democrats, not Republicans, and if he doesn't then he cannot possibly prove Obstruction of Justice.
Again what's your point? Prolly, if this is true, there will be fingerprints of some from both parties on it.

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Second, if you are going to prove obstruction you must take Comey's testimony as credible. But, if you do that it also impugns the AG under Obama for politicizing the investigation of Clinton.
Now you're finally getting it.

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There is no way that Mueller's investigation can prove that Trump is the bad guy, . . .
Trump is a doofus. Like Paul Ryan recently pointed out, Trump doesn't know how to run the government. Running the government is not like running a business. Trump is just bumbling around, tweeting at 3am, and putting his hand on the orb ... like Mr. Magoo.

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. . . rather it can only prove that our entire system is very corrupt
We I can see that you have your eyes open. So you're not a die hard partisan.

I'm pissed off. I'm really getting tired of others pushing on me to be of a particular political party. I don't want to be of any party, unless they have a membership of only one.

But that's just me, obviously. Seems everyone else has to tribe up, one way or another. I guess it makes us feel like we belong to something. And we owe the present success of the human race to living in tribes. But that was then and this is now. Tribalism has become a problem now. Look at Washington ; two enemy tribes. And the result is FUBAR.

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which ironically is why people voted for Trump. If Mueller is able to prove that our system is very corrupt, a highly probably possibility, then ironically it could go a long way towards "draining the swamp".
So Trump bumbles his way into keeping a campaign promise ... but don't look great doing it. Poor Saint Trump.
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