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Old 07-17-2008, 08:23 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by SpeakersCorner View Post
KSA,

Nothing makes this ol' fish bite faster than a lure like that.

I would like to take the angle of who died on the cross. Charles Wesley wrote in 1738, "Tis mystery all: the Immortal dies. Who can explore His strange design?"

When I first really noticed this line it shocked me. The immortal dies? It is an absolute contradiction of itself. Immortality cannot be mortality. And yet it happened. For me, this paradox has been one of the reasons I continue to preach Christ to others. It is the deepest truth in the universe, at least in my estimation. It is my hope, for if the immortal can take on mortality, then perhaps the mortal can take on immortality.

So for me the whole thing must be true: God died that day on the cross. I realize it is much more complex than that, but it also is that simple. If you explain away that God didn't really die, just the Son did, then you have diminished the cross experience by two thirds at least.

Anyway, that's my starting salvo. Yes, the entire Godhead dwelled in the Son. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.


SC
I will move a bit farther from here. I like the hymn SC quoted. However, we may ask what God died on the cross - the Son or the entire Triune God. I have mentioned the difference between Witness Lee's teaching on the incarnation and the common one. However, if we follow the common teaching how can the Son be incarnated separate from the Father and the Spirit - especially in the view of perichoresis of persons in the orthodox theology. If the Son dwells in the Father, and the Father dwells in the Son, if they are distinct, but not separate, how can only Son be incarnate? The same refers to crucifixion. William Young, the author of the famous book "The Shack" (www.theshackbook.com), caused a lot of controversy by telling in His book (in allegorical way) that thru the Son the Father partook of humanity and that the Father also had nail marks on his hands. Because of this some think that this book is heretical. But how can the Son do something separately from the Father and the Spirit? If you think about it, then "orthodox" teaching starts to look a little suspicious.

Well, I think it is enough for now. Your thoughts?

PS. And read the Shack, it is a great book.
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