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Originally Posted by OBW
Z,
You can't muddy every discussion with every other discussion. We are trying to parse out the coded message that the LRC sends when it makes reference to the "unique move of God," not take a different approach to ferretting out all the other problems in the church that might cause us to actually invalidate some particular group.
The LRC uses "unique move of God" to invalidate virtually everyone that is not them. The things you are pointing to are useful to eliminate the truly aberrant groups and leaders. While not a completely different subject, it is almost the polar opposite side of the discussion. But in between is a vast collection of assemblies that make up the church both as local assemblies and as part of the body of Christ universal. The goal of this discussion is not to find valid ways to invalidate any group (even if there is legitimately such an endeavor). It is to demonstrate that the LRC's rhetoric for invalidating most of Christianity, leaving only their little sect as the one that is in "God's unique move," is not a valid, scripture-supported position.
Further, there is nothing defined by the scripture as the "unique move of God" that would not encompass all that God is doing rather than just the little that one particular group is doing.
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Post #1 quotes Drake saying "Any group that does not filter out teachings that do not align with their calling or mission has no purpose for existing."
So perhaps you might want to rethink your lecture on this thread not being about filtering out teachings that don't align with the mission and purpose of the church.
This thread was started by Igzy as a response to Drake. Igzy feels the use of the term "unique move of God" is sectarian because he views the term "unique move of God" as referring to the "Lord's Recovery Church". Drake on the other hand feels that the term refers to the Lord building His church in this age, that many groups of Christians have not been faithful to that vision but as for him and his house he is going to embrace that vision.
Now if that is not what this thread is about then by all means help me see clearly.
As far as I can see both sides have valid points but they aren't listening to each other.
If I claim my little fellowship of 200 Christians in some city of millions is "the unique move of God" then, yes, that is sectarian. On the other hand if I identify Jesus word that "I will build my church" as "the unique move of God in this age" then that is not. If I claim that some Christian groups have "misaimed" or perhaps have aimed correctly but "missed the mark" then that is also a valid point. The point being not that they are not genuine Christians, not that they are not the beloved of the Lord, but that they are not fully matured and have not yet been perfected.
How could anyone be "perfected" or "fully matured" if they cannot identify the errors?
Claiming that they are all "the church" does not help anyone to "be perfect" or to let patience have its perfect work.
So if we are going to discuss "the unique move of God" surely it includes growing unto maturity, letting patience have its perfect work, expressing the Lord Jesus in His fullness.
Returning to Drake's quote, he is saying that there is a process that leads to maturity, and that is to "filter out teachings". If this thread is not about this process then this entire thread is off topic.