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Originally Posted by OBW
Actually, based on the words in the text, it is much more credible that he was there than that he was not. It is all speculation and the only thing we have to go on it "to her husband with her" which puts him roughly there, not somewhere else.
Even John Calvin is subject to fits of opinion not base on actual evidence.
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Of course Adam was likely in the general vicinity, but probably he was not standing beside his wife while she spoke with the serpent.
Probably the likelihood of your opinion being wrong is greater than the likelihood of John Calvin, John Gill, Trapp, and other bible commentaries being wrong. That is, it is likely that you have misread the text or not understood its context. Unless, all of these men are so blinded by gender bias that they cannot correctly interpret the text. Witness Lee included. Witness Lee's view happens to agree with these men. So we could say that Witness Lee's view is the "orthodox" one on this matter.
The Bible teaches that the woman listened to the serpent, and the man listened to his wife. The man did not listen to the serpent, so he was not beside her when it happened.
Adam may or may not have been there, but the bible says clearly that he was
not deceived:
For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. (1 Timothy 2:13–14).
Adam was not persuaded by Satan, he was not deceived. Perhaps Adam trustingly and innocently took the fruit from his wife and ate it. Being a good husband to eat "whatever his wife puts on the table", he ate it.
As indicated by verses 12 and 13 -Adam's fall was to take the fruit from his wife and eat it. And woman's fall was to be deceived by Satan:
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
The woman's sin was to follow Satan, and the man's sin was to follow his wife.
To protect against this, God ordained that wife should follow her husband, because Eve was deceived, not Adam. This is the reason why women should not be in authority over men. This is one of the two reasons that Paul gives for not allowing a woman to have authority over a man:
1 Timothy 2:12-4 I do not permit a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet.
I do not permit a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet.
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
The first reason is because Adam was first and Eve was second. Eve was created as a helper and not to replace the role of Adam. This principle of being first also holds in the matter of parents and children. The parents come before the children so the children must be in subjection to the parents.
The second reason is because woman was deceived, not man.