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Originally Posted by OBW
You are correct that both failed. And that there has been a tendency by some to blame the woman. Especially in prior times and in certain sectors of modern Christianity.
But beyond that I cannot agree. The inferences made in post #68 and the one quoted above are a little much when it comes to the characterization of the unstated actions and blessing attributed strictly to the woman (Eve) and that you claim for yourself.
First, you refer to a repentance that woman did but man did not, but I do not see the support for it. She did confess. But confession is not the same as repentance. Ever heard the "I did it and I'd do it again" confession? Confession is not repentance. We actually do not see anything of repentance on the part of either of them. I would suspect that there was repentance by both. But it was not recorded.
Yet that is as far as I can take it — suspect it is so. Just as it is as far as your statement about the repentance of the woman v the man can go.
You can't make doctrine out of suspicions, be they good or bad ones. It could even turn out to be true (when we get through the pearly gates and ask about all those things we couldn't figure out). But it was not given to us to see and know now, therefore not available to comment on. Surely nothing to insist upon or declare as a fact.
Same concerning the seed. "Every promise in the book" is not mine. Yes, God did say that the seed of the woman would crush the head of the serpent. But this was not some blessing to woman. It was a promise to mankind that the serpent would be dealt with. It is part of the blessing to the nations that was promised to come through Abraham. (So is it now a male thing to claim?)
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OBW,
Her repentance or lack thereof is not a doctrine for me. I believe she did repent because of what followed. I believe he didn't because of what followed. That's it. So we're on the same page. However, eventually I also believe Adam repented.
How do you know that the seed of the woman would crush her head of the serpent was not a blessing to woman? How do we know that the promise to Abraham wasn't a kind of blessing to men? I'm mostly not serious about this last question, just to carry on your point. It is not recorded. So I have no strong opinion either way. In the overall picture of this topic, this is not a major point. it's not an issue to me. It's just what I think.
Nell