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Originally Posted by Terry
Where shall I start? - speaking positively publicly
- shadow government
- transparency or a lack of
- immigration
- healthcare reform
A general similarity I've seen since 2012 is if someone holds a conservative view, a liberal will consider them to be an "opposer", "negative", "divisive" etc. Labels I have heard commonly used by LSM promoters against brothers/sisters who don't share the same views/agenda.
Shadow government- true or conspiracy paranoia to undermine the current US administration we've seen similar tactics orchestrated by LSM/DCP against GLA localities that didn't go along with LSM edicts. Setting up special meetings, offering "fellowship" to those brothers pro-LSM as a means to undermine the local administration.
Immigration-facts are tossed out in favor of feelings. It was not a "muslim ban", but a ban on seven countries. Reaction is as if Trump was the first president to have a ban. Fact is every president since 1979 has had some sort of a ban on a nation. Those being detained by Immigration and Customs are not legal immigrants, but illegal immigrants. Key words such as "temporary" and "illegal" are ignored by those protesting immigration decisions. Those on agreement with left come across as if there shouldn't be any immigration or Customs laws. No borders with people to freely enter and leave the United States as they please.
In the local churches it is very similar in regard quarantines/disfellowship of brothers. I asked for proof why Titus Chu was to be quarantined, nothing. It's based on feeling and not on fact. The only thing of fact LSM may not admit to is it's based purely on revenue.
I've been observing for years regarding Steve Isitt and the churches of Bellevue and Seattle. Leading brothers from those localities don't respond to requests of fellowship. I asked one brother from the Church in Renton, why can't the brothers come to fellowship with Steve. His response, "we feel Steve can't be trusted". A brother being kept from fellowship based on feeling and not fact. Quarantines of the late 1980's. Based on feeling and not fact.
Healthcare Reform (ACA/Obamacare)- When PPCA began in 2007 I was onboard. Gave the Obama Administration benefit of the doubt with healthcare reform. The message delivered was deceitful. "Affordable Healthcare". Hardly the case. Experience for many individuals and businesses is unaffordable healthcare due to the regulations and taxes tied to it. Yet the liberals view this as the best vehicle for healthcare reform. Undoubtedly whatever suggestion Trump's administration may have in adjusting healthcare reform will be met with steadfast opposition from the liberals.
Much is the same in the LSM local churches. They are deceitful when they say local churches aren't ministry churches. They are deceitful when they say each local church is locally administered. How local churches proceed with LSM publications as the way to go is no different than obamacare. It just isn't working. Look at the numbers in the localities. When I last visited San Bernardino in 2014, I saw many of the brothers and sisters I knew from years earlier. "The Ministry" has produced little fruit other than churchkids now adults with children of their own. Just like obamacare, the system LSM churches is an inefficient system in dire need of reform. Just like obamacare, those tied to LSM are passionately prideful in believing their system is the best way in spite of what facts may show.
During Obama's administration, he touted transparency, but was anything but. He like the blended brothers proved to be more deceptive than transparent.
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Thanks for responding. I left the LCM in 1986 so things might have changed there. But, when I was part of it, the LCM was a authoritarian cult. No president liberal or conservative has been able to function the way the LCM did because of the way the US is structured and functions based on the system of laws beginning with the constitution. So, I don't buy your thesis.
Your "shadow government" is an unproven theory. The LCM had no immigration and health care systems. What one brother said to you can't simply be generalized to the group without evidence. You are making sweeping generalizations based on stereotypes. Are you sure that your own opinions aren't driven more by feelings than facts?
For me the problem with Trump isn't a matter of liberal vs. conservative. It's the problem of having a president who is a pathological liar with delusions of grandeur that impairs his contact with reality. For example, in his last press conference he claimed that he has the highest number of electoral votes since Reagan which is factually way off. Then he claimed there was a terrorist attack in Sweden. But, those are just the latest examples of lies and prevarication that are daily occurrences.
Trump's grandiose view of himself makes him susceptible to manipulation. He's already in violation of the emoluments clause of the US Constitution because of his refusal to put his businesses in a blind trust. He's the first to refuse to release his tax returns since the Nixon debacle. And the list goes on.
There are plenty of conservatives that see that Trump is unfit to be president. Hopefully, the Republican majority in Congress will have the balls to impeach him before he causes a disaster.