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Originally Posted by OBW
Yes. I know what he did. But the response was not to that, but do demand that we show how there are TWO "one true Gods." I showed you how Jesus could say to believe in the Father, who is the one true God, and to believe in him without the requirement that there be TWO one true Gods.
You and Drake are stuck on an incorrect definition of tritheism. The true definition is to worship or believe in three gods. But to believe in three persons that are one God is not believing in three gods. It is believing in One God.
So you ignore the fact that we believe in One God and declare that because we understand God to be in three persons (which can only imply three beings) that we are believing in three gods. But that is false. It is a lie.
It makes you guilty of equivocation — using a different definition without actually saying so.
One God in Three Persons is not three gods. Therefore no tritheism.
And because Drake is foolishly doing the same thing. I will say it again to him.
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Drake and I are trying to convince you of your error when you say or imply that God is three beings. We should be more precise. We are only really allowed to say "three persons". You cannot say three beings, three entitities, or three essences.
If you think that a person is a being, then there is a flaw in your understanding of what "person" means. A "person" means a centre of consciousness, or a personality, with thoughts, emotions, and a will. A person is not a being (as tritheism believes) and is not merely a role or a manifestation (as modalism believes). A person is somewhere in the middle between the two extremes.
The classical doctrine of the Trinity says "one being in three persons". Look it up, Google it, you will find that this is fairly consistent terminology across different Christian websites, particularly apologetics like CARM.
See here:
https://carm.org/trinity
"They are not three gods and not three beings. "
http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/...of-the-trinity says
"He is one Being in three Persons (centers of consciousness), not merely three roles."
We can say one Being, one God, one entity, or one essence, in three Persons. But if we say three beings, or three gods, or three entities, or three essences, that is tritheism.
"God is one in essence, three in Person"
I think of the three persons as three "Personalities", using the terminology that the Pulpit commentary used that I quoted last time.
There is one being, and He has three personalities or "Centres of consciousness". That is the Trinity.
As I said before, I don't even have to quote Witness Lee when discussing with some of you. I just quote CARM or gotquestions or bible commentaries, because you aren't even believing the orthodox doctrines you think you are.