BTW. I like Unto's quote from John 14 (below). While not intended as such, it underscores that "abiding" is not about sitting in advance of doing something, but the result of doing something.
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"If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him"
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Here, the beginning of abiding (some translations use the term "make our abode with him" rather than "make our home with him") is in "keep[ing] my word."
And unless you think that keeping the Word of God is about studying it, knowing it, and fighting about its meaning, then you realize that you have to obey it
before the abiding that is spoken of here occurs. And since this aspect of abiding precedes the whole vine-and-branches discourse on abiding, it is hard to understand that as being about waiting, but rather about engaging in the activity of the vine as a whole.
In terms of an out-of-favor phrase, it is works. Not to gain salvation, but to engage in the reality of abiding.
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OK. Off topic. I will report myself to the originator of the thread.