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Originally Posted by UntoHim
This verse is plain for all to see as well...
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me? (Matthew 27:46 Recovery Version)
My friend, I must tell you, that your lack of knowledge of some of the basics of the teachings and history related to us in the Gospels and the rest of the New Testament is quite revealing. It is apparent that you study and value the words of a man above and beyond the Word of God. In your rush to confirm/affirm Witness Lee's teaching that "the whole Triune God died on the cross" you couldn't even remember one of the seminal passages in the Gospels.
Please, I beg you, turn back to the Word of God, and to "the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation" (Rom 1:16) Forget about the creeds if you must. Forget about anything anybody posts on this forum if you must. Lay aside, at least for a season, the person and work of Witness Lee. The Word of God is eagerly waiting for your heart and mind to washed in the water of it's truth and grace.
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it is funny when you say I have a lack of knowledge and not being able to remember one of the seminal passages in the Gospels.
I was actually the one who introduced the idea of Matthew 27:46 to this thread, as far back as post #2. I quoted it again in a later post #47.
This must be an embarrassing slip up for you.
It is not so simple as drawing a conclusion from this one verse - how can we reconcile the fact that Jesus said the Father never leaves Him, he was always obedient, always pleasing the Father, with this utterance of God forsaking him? This is an apparent contradiction in the Bible.
This difficulty with the passage is mentioned in Barne's commentary on the Bible:
My God, my God ... - This expression is one denoting intense suffering. It has been difficult to understand in what sense Jesus was "forsaken by God." It is certain that God approved his work. It is certain that he was innocent. He had done nothing to forfeit the favor of God. As his own Son - holy, harmless, undefiled, and obedient - God still loved him. In either of these senses God could not have forsaken him. But the expression was probably used in reference to the following circumstances, namely:
There is a way to reconcile both the Father leaving Christ on the cross, yet also the Father never leaving Him, if we consider Christ as both the Son of God and also the Son of Man. As the Son of Man the Father left Him, as the Son of God, the Father did not leave Him, the cross did not break the hypostatic union.