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Old 01-12-2017, 09:58 AM   #242
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Default Re: Good Lee/Bad Lee: Can they be separated?

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The Tabernacle is the missing part of the verdict the reason why the arguments against Witness Lee continues to increase with so much opposition to the messages he delivered. Every Christian needs to gain every word that God instructed Moses regarding the Tabernacle. Every believer needs to see the points specific to Christ and the Church regarding the Tabernacle, especially concerning the gold that overlayed the wood. Every believer needs to seek the Lord in prayer regarding Witness Lee's messages on the life study publication of the book of Exodus on the Tabernacle.
The problem with this is that God instructed Moses with the building of the tabernacle, not the precise meanings of the various parts of it as types and figures. To broadly point to Christ as seen in various parts is more than meaningful. But to take it down to minutia with specific meanings not actually provided in the scripture is to force meaning where none was provided.

This is the legacy of Witness Lee, and Nee before him. They have taken the grand narratives of the scripture and turned them from being lessons and pictures into a code book of hidden meaning. Everything was given detailed descriptions and meanings by Lee. Stones, wood, overlays, coverings, etc. But they are not supported by more than general ideas not otherwise spelled-out anywhere.

And he was so sure about everything he said. It was always presumed to be as precise and true as he spoke it. Like jasper stone being green. Yes, green is one of the colors of jasper. More often red or yellow. The pictures provided show vast amounts that are red, yellow or brown, with a few that are green. Yes, the green ones are quite stunning. But jasper is not primarily some green stone upon which to draw massive quantities of meaning.

Does the presence of badger skin really mean . . . . ?

Is the particular wood overlaid with gold really something remarkably unique? Did other pagans do similar things with their idols and the structure of their temples? Not demeaning the one true God in this. Just questioning the veracity of the "this means that" statements which Lee always engaged in. His ministry was one of precision. But from what source? Were his notions of "fact" any better than casting gold into a fire and getting a calf out of it? "Behold the truth about the God who despises those who do not meet on the ground!!"

And they all merrily shouted "Hallelujah" and danced around the meeting hall with glee. (I realize that this is a little beyond what actually happened, but not by much. I was there for many years and recall the frenzy that occasionally ensued after one of Lee's "revelations" were accepted as fact with no more than his word to support it.)

To listen to a "true believer" within the LRC system, there was never a questionable word that proceeded from the mouth of either Witness Lee or Watchman Nee. But for the rest of us, we approach even the most trusted scholars and teachers with a healthy skepticism. We have to actually see what is being taught found in the Bible. Not just declared to be so. Not shoe-horned in with a lot of clearly true things followed by the bogus.

We may find our teachers to be mostly trustworthy. But it is not simply because they have reputation, but also because we can see it as truth in the Bible. All that stuff that Lee came up with concerning the tabernacle and its "truth" about the church was not from the Bible. It may not have all been original with him or Nee, but it was still conjecture with no solid grounding. (Funny for someone whose primary claim to fame was "ground.")
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