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Old 01-27-2009, 01:54 PM   #67
Hope
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Default Re: ground of locality and generality

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Originally Posted by Igzy View Post
Let's see. It didn't have to be taught. Which means everyone knew it. But now, nobody knows it, except a select few, like yourself.

Assuming there are 2.1 billion Christians in the world, and 50,000 who believe the local ground teaching (probably high), then that means that only .0024% of Christians believe this teaching, which was held in such importance by Lee that he practically made it an item of the faith. On the other hand, 99.9976% of Christians don't believe this teaching, practically all of them having never even heard of it.

So we are expected to believe a teaching which was never taught by the Bible, nor the Lord, nor the apostles, nor the early church fathers, but which you say is so important that God has only gotten .0024% of his people to believe in it.

Oregon, sorry, I'm afraid that makes you sound like a crank. And realize that a crank never thinks he's a crank when he is one, and it's the hardest thing for him to admit. I know, I used to be one, and still may be on some subjects. But not this one.
Hello Igzy,

A question or two and a few comments regarding your post and its logic. In recent times there was a slogan "worship at the church of your choice." Should we accept a slogan such as this which was never taught by the Bible, nor the Lord, nor the apostles, nor the early church fathers,

We do know that Paul taught against believers declaring "I am of Paul" etc. Would it be appropriate to say that declaring "I am a Baptist," or "I am a Methodist," or "I am a Catholic" is also not according to the clear teaching of the Bible and such declarations were "never taught by the Bible, nor the Lord, nor the apostles, nor the early church fathers"

It seems to me that if we are fair and condemn Watchman Nee and Witness Lee for teaching that the early practice of the practical local assembly was "the church in _______" then we should be just as strict on the teaching and practice of denominations and sects among today's Christians.

In addition, in John 17 we find a prayer recorded in which the Lord is praying for a oneness of future believers by which the world would be affected. Looking at today's situation, is there any reason to believe this prayer is now obsolete?

A believer in Christ Jesus,

Hope, Don Rutledge
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