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Evangelical · 12-18-2016, 02:45 PM

"They can't produce A SINGLE VERSE OF SCRIPTURE to back up their ridiculous objection."

- this is funny. There is no single verse of scripture to back up celebration of Christmas.

It is well known that Jews did not celebrate their birthdays. In Jesus's 30 years on Earth, there is no record that he or his parents celebrated his birthday.

"THE ONLY ONES who DIDN'T celebrate Christmas were SATAN and wicked Herod."

The 12 disciples did not celebrate Christmas nor did the Jews. They weren't there when Jesus was born (never gave baby Jesus gifts and all), and they never celebrated it with him during their time with him. Does that mean they were Satanic?
Show me from the bible where it says the disciples celebrated Christmas.

"As far as December 25 being a FORMER pagan holiday, WHO CARES?

I know of NO CHRISTIAN who worships Helios, Apollo, or Sol Invictus (same pagan god, known by three different names). Most people don't even KNOW such false deity was EVER worshipped."

I think God cares. When the Israelites entered a pagan land , God told them to destroy all of the symbols and artifacts (Deut 12:3) . They could not keep them and claim to be worshiping the true God at the same time. They could not say "it's such a lovely Asherah pole, I am going to decorate it and now call it a Christian pole". God did not approve of that.

With Christmas, instead of merging Christianity with paganism, they should have destroyed all the pagan trees (which today are the Christmas trees) and other such pagan symbols. Then they could have started a truly Christian celebration, which would not have led to the problem of Christmas commercialization today. Nowadays, it is the pagan symbols associated with Christmas that are displayed throughout our shopping malls and various places, not nativity and biblical scenes. This is because it is acceptable for most people even atheists and those of other religions to acknowledge the pagan Christmas, trees, santa claus etc but not acceptable for them to believe in Jesus. If a person wanted to replace the Christmas trees with a statue of Jesus for example I am sure that there will be many complaints. The world which hates Christ makes Christmas one of the most important holidays of the year. Coincidence? I think not.

According to God the artifacts of a religion are just as much part of that religion as the beliefs. Just like the artifacts of drug use as just as much a part of drug taking as the drug itself. For example, possessing a bong or other drug taking device can get you in trouble with the law, even if you are not a drug user yourself. Or don't you know that the God of the Old Testament is the same God in the New Testament? God is just as jealous now as he was then. But people think, "oh no, now that Jesus died for us, God is nicer, God is friendly, he doesn't care if we decorate this old pagan tree here and call it a Christ- tree". Either we think God must be blind or stupid, or God is not real.

12-18-2016, 02:45 PM	#2
Evangelical Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 3,965	Re: Tis the season "They can't produce A SINGLE VERSE OF SCRIPTURE to back up their ridiculous objection." - this is funny. There is no single verse of scripture to back up celebration of Christmas. It is well known that Jews did not celebrate their birthdays. In Jesus's 30 years on Earth, there is no record that he or his parents celebrated his birthday. "THE ONLY ONES who DIDN'T celebrate Christmas were SATAN and wicked Herod." The 12 disciples did not celebrate Christmas nor did the Jews. They weren't there when Jesus was born (never gave baby Jesus gifts and all), and they never celebrated it with him during their time with him. Does that mean they were Satanic? Show me from the bible where it says the disciples celebrated Christmas. "As far as December 25 being a FORMER pagan holiday, WHO CARES? I know of NO CHRISTIAN who worships Helios, Apollo, or Sol Invictus (same pagan god, known by three different names). Most people don't even KNOW such false deity was EVER worshipped." I think God cares. When the Israelites entered a pagan land , God told them to destroy all of the symbols and artifacts (Deut 12:3) . They could not keep them and claim to be worshiping the true God at the same time. They could not say "it's such a lovely Asherah pole, I am going to decorate it and now call it a Christian pole". God did not approve of that. With Christmas, instead of merging Christianity with paganism, they should have destroyed all the pagan trees (which today are the Christmas trees) and other such pagan symbols. Then they could have started a truly Christian celebration, which would not have led to the problem of Christmas commercialization today. Nowadays, it is the pagan symbols associated with Christmas that are displayed throughout our shopping malls and various places, not nativity and biblical scenes. This is because it is acceptable for most people even atheists and those of other religions to acknowledge the pagan Christmas, trees, santa claus etc but not acceptable for them to believe in Jesus. If a person wanted to replace the Christmas trees with a statue of Jesus for example I am sure that there will be many complaints. The world which hates Christ makes Christmas one of the most important holidays of the year. Coincidence? I think not. According to God the artifacts of a religion are just as much part of that religion as the beliefs. Just like the artifacts of drug use as just as much a part of drug taking as the drug itself. For example, possessing a bong or other drug taking device can get you in trouble with the law, even if you are not a drug user yourself. Or don't you know that the God of the Old Testament is the same God in the New Testament? God is just as jealous now as he was then. But people think, "oh no, now that Jesus died for us, God is nicer, God is friendly, he doesn't care if we decorate this old pagan tree here and call it a Christ- tree". Either we think God must be blind or stupid, or God is not real.