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Originally Posted by Drake
The author appears to miss the fundamental characteristic of a counterfeit. That is, it is difficult to distinguish it from the authentic else it could not effectively deceive.
The description given in Chapter 2 of Satanic authority is not convincing as counterfeit. For instance, if you compare Peters actions to prevent the Lord from going to the cross there is a complete mismatch with the authors description of what is counterfeit. Peter exhibited none of those characteristics, yet the Lord characterized Peter as Satan. Peters natural love and real concern for the Lord's well-being are the characteristics of a genuine and effective counterfeit.
Satan is all those things described but that is not the counterfeit we need to concern ourselves with. An indication of a counterfeit is whether it diverts from seeking the things of God as it was with Peter.
Drake
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I disagree with you, Drake. Were it not for the counterfeit authority of Satan, we would have no other concerns; we would have no diversions from seeking the things of God. Regardless, the discussion in the quote below is not about "counterfeit". It's about authority and freedom. The quote discusses both the characteristics of God's authority and what Jane describes as Satan's counterfeit authority.
The counterfeit authority of Satan has been used against God's people since Satan rebelled. It was used on Adam and Eve in the garden to effect the fall of man and, to Jane's point, is still being used today by Christian men who have been used by the deceiver to lord it over and rule over, not only Christian women, but other Christian men. I've heard of at least one Christian woman, formerly in the LC, who ruled with counterfeit authority on other saints in the church. Most of us who post on this forum have experience with counterfeit authority as Jane has described. I know I have.
If you don't care for the word "counterfeit", you're free to find another word. This is the one Jane chose and it fits the deeds of the devilish one who exercises self-serving authority over brothers and sisters in Christ and make their lives a living hell.
Nell