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Old 12-06-2016, 09:05 PM   #124
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Default Re: The title is biased

They are polls, and can be as good as polls can be. Averages, I presume. There will be areas with a low result and other areas with a high result. Pollsters get it wrong, just look at the elections. Does that mean they be ignored? No, they still provide valuable information. For example, polls incorrectly predicted the election result, however they correctly represented the popular vote.

Regarding "beat the sinner" methods. Let's consider an example. Ted and Fred are happily married and want to become Christians. They were raised in a culture where gay marriage is universally accepted as normal (let's say Canada, for example), they don't know it is wrong. They ask you "OBW, I want to be a Christian, what do I have to do?" What would you say to them?

I would say - well you need to repent of your sin first. And they would say "what sin?, I am a good person, I give to the poor, I help bake cakes for the local church". I will say, God does not approve of homosexuality, you need to repent of that. If they repent, great, I can continue with God's grace and assurance of salvation etc etc. If not, it is hardly appropriate to continue the conversation about God's forgiveness etc.
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