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Old 10-23-2016, 07:14 PM   #2
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Default Re: Nigel Tomes - LSM's Unorthodox Satanology

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
So then it is referring directly to the King of Tyre, who is being used figuratively to depict a false God, who is the head of a false religion, in a counterfeit Eden, a fallen cherub, who dresses ostentatiously in precious stones.

This king and this God can be seen as an "opposer" of Israel and the God of Israel, but being "a opposer" doesn't make him "the Satan".

If I understand your position correctly the average Christian lumps all false Gods who oppose God's kingdom under the heading of "Satan" but you have categorized them into a bunch of different groups.
I don't see so much of a problem as lumping the kings under "Satan" or saying that they were under or influenced by a satanic influence. However I think it a stretch to create a story about Satan personified himself, of him being kicked out of heaven (fall), and the reasons for it, based upon these stories.

Christianity, has personified Satan, by ascribing to him all of the figures ascribed to the kings of Tyre and Babylon, and concocting a story about Satan's kicking out.

Christianity in general believes that Satan was kicked out to Earth prior to Genesis. This is based upon misinterpretation of these passages in the old testament.

There are three reasons supporting this idea:

1. Satan could not have been kicked out before Genesis because God said that everything in the Garden of Eden was good, (the serpent in the Garden included).
2. In the book of Job - Satan came before God in heaven to talk with God
3. Revelation 12:9 proves that Satan is yet to be kicked out from heaven (in future).

Points 1,2,3 are consistent with the idea that the kings of tyre and babylon are not referring to Satan (or his fall).

Christians who undoubtedly believe the King of Tyre, Babylon = Satan idea are forced to explain away these three points. For example they may say that Revelation 12:9 is describing an event that occurred in history, or that Satan was, is or will be kicked out from heaven multiple times.
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