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Originally Posted by aron
"Truly, truly, I say to you, whenever two or three of you are gathered in my name, I am there in your midst."
But you say this is insufficient, and propose improvements, necessary ones.
I remember distinctly that the Ascended Master in Anaheim felt we weren't vital enough, and sent out trainers. They had us come up front and thrust out our two arms as we sang, "PSRP/BNPB makes the eagle fly", and as we waved them up and down. Such was the spirit then motivating the assembly.
But it's the church, right?
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If two or three are the church as you say, then how do you explain "the church" in verse 17 here?:
Matthew 18: 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Matthew 18:17 And if he refuses to hear them (
the two or three, emphasis mine), tell it to
the church.
Obviously, the two or three in verse 16 is not the same as the church in verse 17.
It is saying, in verse 15, talk to your brother first, then in verse 16, take one or two with you (that is the two or three), and then in verse 17, tell it to "the church". Obviously two or three brothers with you cannot be "the church". Telling it to the church means tell it to the elders of the church. The church is not just two or three, it is bigger than that.