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Evangelical · 10-12-2016, 05:54 PM

There is an objective positional "in Christ", all believers have that, there is a subjective and experiential "in Christ". We are talking about the latter "in Christ" not the former. Support for that in the Bible is given by Christ's words about abiding in Him, and Paul's words about living and walking by or in the Spirit.

In the local churches everything we say, pray to, and uphold, is Christ. Our minds are "in Christ".

In a denominational service it is possible to not hear the name of Christ mentioned once. Their minds are not in Christ but other things such as how to be successful, how to be blessed etc. They are in Christ positionally but not subjectively and experientially. There are individuals in denominations who are in Christ subjectively, but the environment they are in does not encourage that or get them into that.

10-12-2016, 05:54 PM	#41
Evangelical Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 3,965	Re: The Fallacy of Ecumenism There is an objective positional "in Christ", all believers have that, there is a subjective and experiential "in Christ". We are talking about the latter "in Christ" not the former. Support for that in the Bible is given by Christ's words about abiding in Him, and Paul's words about living and walking by or in the Spirit. In the local churches everything we say, pray to, and uphold, is Christ. Our minds are "in Christ". In a denominational service it is possible to not hear the name of Christ mentioned once. Their minds are not in Christ but other things such as how to be successful, how to be blessed etc. They are in Christ positionally but not subjectively and experientially. There are individuals in denominations who are in Christ subjectively, but the environment they are in does not encourage that or get them into that.