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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
I think there are pockets of people in the US who have given themselves over to fornication.
I live in NYC, there are clubs and people in this city that exemplify that, there are also people in this city that are walking by faith, like Abraham.
I was responding to your posts calling down the wrath of God on this country of 350 million. I was responding to the broad brush with which you have painted everyone. I was responding to your use of the laws in this country as a basis to judge.
You call yourself "Evangelical" yet seem to have no clue what the Gospel is.
Yes, the world is under God's judgement. Egypt, Sodom, Moabites, Syria, Babylon, etc are all types of various forms of this world under God's judgement. But, the good news is that Jesus has dealt with this on the cross, and that belief in Jesus and his resurrection will justify and save people. This is how the kingdom will be brought in. This is how you will remove the stony heart and replace it with a heart of flesh. This will not be legislated. Big business is not going to save the world. This is the vision I have and I have been faithful to this vision.
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ZNPaaneah,
I maintain there is something wrong if you cannot see that a country with majority supporting gay marriage and approved gay marriage is not more like Sodom than not. Even Billy Graham and other great men have said that. So you claim to have a vision but I think you are rather short sighted not to be able to see that. The good news isn't getting very far because you have no way to present it or accomplish it except in 20,000+ different ways with 20,000+ different denominations. Furthermore if you make a convert and they ask where is the local church you cannot show them except by pointing to one of the 20,000 different denominations. I think only when you have accomplished something to the scale and degree that Lee has can you claim to be faithful to the vision of the gospel. Of course there is no way you can do that as an individual yourself, hence my point about not having an effective way to present the gospel. To be effective we need a genuine church and we need to speak the gospel in a clear way and not in many different ways. Just like the early church did it.