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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
Sodom was a city, the US is not a city.
Sodom was compared to a lush garden, like the Garden of Eden. That might apply to some cities in the US, but certainly not to all.
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ZNPaaneah, it should be obvious that I am not speaking literally when I say "America is Sodom". Just as the Bible does - e.g. Revelation 11:8 "And their bodies will lie in the main street of Jerusalem, the city that is figuratively called "Sodom" and "Egypt," the city where their Lord was crucified."
Jude 7 says
"“Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”
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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
The men of Sodom are evil and sinners before Jehovah exceedingly. Is this true of all men in the US? No. I definitely don't agree with that.
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OK so you disagree that America is Sodom on the basis of America not being as sinful as Sodom.
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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
God says that if he can find 50 righteous men in the place then He would not rain down judgement. According to the NT Jesus Christ has become our righteousness. I think it is very safe to say that there are more than 50 genuine believers of Jesus in the US. In fact I can say there are more than 50 genuine believers in Queens, NY. In fact I can testify that there are more than 50 genuine believers in Jamaica, Queens.
That said, I have witnessed some of the most blatant, offensive, in your face sins when I visited the church in San Francisco, back in 1980. This was right before the AIDS epidemic struck, and the church meeting hall was right near the epicenter of that.
Was the AIDS epidemic God's righteous judgement? Of course it was. Was the US judged? Yes. But so was the rest of the world.
My issue with you is not that you are offended with the sins of the flesh. My issue is that you think that the solution is with the government. Jesus has shown us that the cross of Christ is the solution. He dealt with sin and the flesh on the cross. This is the good news that we preach. This is how men are given a new heart.
But that is not the apology that you owe me. Your "point" was that I justified the sins committed in the US. That is a lie. Your "proof" was anything but proof. You need to apologize for your slander.
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Then I apologize for any offence given.