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Evangelical · 10-09-2016, 03:44 AM

OBW,

unity is not just a matter of being inclusive or exclusive. Unity is "in Christ" and if you truly knew what that meant you would know that it does not mean we can simply join any other Christian group for fellowship, if they are not fellowshipping "in Christ". Remember that unity is about the unity of the Body of Christ, not the Body of someone else. So we cannot fellowship with the "body of something else", only Christ will do.

It does not make sense for you to ask that we leave life (Christ) and join death (not Christ) for the sake of unity. The Lord does not just desire unity but also holiness. The Babylonian worldly mixture as expressed by ecumenism is a kind of unity. You would ask that we join with that, and we cannot. The Lord would not ask us to compromise worship in Spirit and truth for the sake of unity. In other words, we are not going to approach Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, and Mormons for example and join with them just for the sake of unity. If this were a matter of worshiping Christ in any way we liked, then you would have a point. But it isn't. The Bible teaches us that we should worship according to God's way - in Spirit and in truth. Denominations conducting services not focused on Christ - a worship service, a program, an activity, something other than Christ, we cannot join that in the name of so-called "fellowship". In many places, you would be hard pressed to find a denominational church in which any member can share, pray, contribute freely, like they can in the Lord's Recovery. The alternative is house churches which are too small to be a church. Simply attending church services is not genuine fellowship or worship in Spirit and truth. It must be fellowship "in Christ", and cannot be part of the dead religions, and especially those which are degraded by acceptance of gay marriage etc.

10-09-2016, 03:44 AM	#30
Evangelical Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 3,965	Re: The Fallacy of Ecumenism OBW, unity is not just a matter of being inclusive or exclusive. Unity is "in Christ" and if you truly knew what that meant you would know that it does not mean we can simply join any other Christian group for fellowship, if they are not fellowshipping "in Christ". Remember that unity is about the unity of the Body of Christ, not the Body of someone else. So we cannot fellowship with the "body of something else", only Christ will do. It does not make sense for you to ask that we leave life (Christ) and join death (not Christ) for the sake of unity. The Lord does not just desire unity but also holiness. The Babylonian worldly mixture as expressed by ecumenism is a kind of unity. You would ask that we join with that, and we cannot. The Lord would not ask us to compromise worship in Spirit and truth for the sake of unity. In other words, we are not going to approach Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, and Mormons for example and join with them just for the sake of unity. If this were a matter of worshiping Christ in any way we liked, then you would have a point. But it isn't. The Bible teaches us that we should worship according to God's way - in Spirit and in truth. Denominations conducting services not focused on Christ - a worship service, a program, an activity, something other than Christ, we cannot join that in the name of so-called "fellowship". In many places, you would be hard pressed to find a denominational church in which any member can share, pray, contribute freely, like they can in the Lord's Recovery. The alternative is house churches which are too small to be a church. Simply attending church services is not genuine fellowship or worship in Spirit and truth. It must be fellowship "in Christ", and cannot be part of the dead religions, and especially those which are degraded by acceptance of gay marriage etc.