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Old 09-19-2016, 04:21 AM   #472
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Always in the Church, but not always in fellowship with the brethren

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I have to laugh at your claim that I "ignore God's Word". I think you mean "ZNPaaneah's Word". Whatever angle or spin you want to put on it, my view is straight from the bible, I gave the verse, read it, apply it like any other verse such as John 3:16, then you would be following God. Reject it, and you aren't following God.

I could post any respected website such as gotquestions that says the same:
http://www.gotquestions.org/women-pastors.html
God has ordained that only men are to serve in positions of spiritual teaching authority in the church. This is not because men are necessarily better teachers or because women are inferior or less intelligent (which is not the case). It is simply the way God designed the church to function.


CARM (Christian apologetics and research ministry):
https://carm.org/should-women-be-pastors-and-elders

God's word clearly tells us that the elder is to be the husband of one wife. A woman cannot qualify for this position by virtue of her being female. Whether anyone likes it or not is irrelevant to the fact that this is what the Bible teaches.

If you're in a church where there is a woman pastor, then ask for the biblical reason for her being in that position. of course, to do this is to go against the status quo and you will be met with resistance. Therefore, consider leaving that church. After all, if they can't get this simple truth right, how can you trust them to get other things right?

If you're the husband of a woman pastor, then hold your wife to biblical standards as revealed by Paul the apostle. it does not matter if she likes it or not. The issue is the submission to the word of God.

If you're a husband and wife pastor team, then submit to God's word and do things right. She needs to stop being called pastor. She needs to stop taking the role of the man.


Catholic and Orthodox churches still hold to it today, most Protestant churches used to hold to it until around the 1980's. It was almost universally recognized that women could not be pastors or priests, until fairly recent times. About the same time that homosexual marriage was coming to the fore. Coincidence? I think not. The Jezebel spirit is running rampant and weak Ahab's support it.
You brought this up before. Leadership, Elders and Teach are not equivalent terms.

Just because someone teaches does not make them a leader. These are two completely separate issues, because you confuse the two you think verses about one support the other. They don't.

The church is a hospital for those who have been broken and hurt by sin. Broken families are a very big result of this. The church needs to be a place where all those who come from broken and dysfunctional backgrounds can get healed, this involves having good examples of fathers and mothers. As a result it is far more important that an elder be the husband of one wife and one who is able to lead his own family well than it is that he can teach.

17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Laboring in the word and doctrine is not a requirement for an elder, but being a good example of a husband and father is.

Yes, an elder will have to teach, but elder sisters also have to teach. This is a verb, not a noun.

Elders must be men because they must be husbands and fathers.
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