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Old 09-18-2016, 05:01 AM   #455
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Always in the Church, but not always in fellowship with the brethren

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I believe the context I am speaking of is women teaching men. That verse you posted is women teaching younger women, and that's fine. Anyhow the context is authority, a woman can prophesy which is a kind of teaching, but leadership should be male only. It is noteworthy that all of the closest disciples Jesus chose were men.
Once again your cavalier attitude towards what you proclaim as true is outrageous. You did not give any context to your speaking, you merely proclaimed as true that "women should not teach".

Now you try to weasel out and say the context is that "women should not teach men". This also is never provided as a NT command. The context, that you are so clearly missing, is that during the NT women were in leadership roles, they were having a big part in the ministry, and this in a culture where this was revolutionary, and in a time when only men were educated.

The reason for 1Tim 2 is because of the danger to the church and the ministry based on the perception given to the unbelievers and government authorities.

1. "all in Asia have forsaken me" -- why do you think that was?

2. Look at the frequent stoning, imprisonments, riots caused by those who worshipped Diana.

The church was being persecuted by Jews, Pagans and the Roman Government. It is quite reasonable that Paul would not want the church or the ministry being misrepresented.

Yet you ignore what he clearly proclaimed, which is that in the church there is no male or female.

You condemned James for writing to the "twelve tribes in the dispersion" because in the church there is no Jew or Gentile. You said he was making a distinction that he wasn't supposed to make.

Yet you are making clearly making a distinction between male and female that Paul said you are not to make.

You have also muddled church leadership with teaching. These are two separate things which Paul makes clear when he says that an elder that teaches well should be given double honor.

You don't cut the word straight, you hack it up with a butter knife.
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