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Originally Posted by Evangelical
I can show you from the Bible it is not "tough to tell" at all. It is perhaps tough to admit, given the "peer pressure" in this age to conform to societies expectations at the risk of being labelled a sexist or otherwise.
1 Tim 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
is it societal or cultural? Easy to tell
1 Tim 2:13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
Paul believed a woman should not teach because she was made after Adam.
There's nothing cultural about that, it's according to God's creation order.
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Really, "Paul believed a woman should not teach"? Then why does he charge the aged women to teach in Titus 2:4?
You are really scary the way you handle the bible, as though it were a meat cleaver.
1Tim 2 is not about church meetings, it is about dealing with Kings and those in authority. He isn't talking about teaching sisters, or younger saints, he is talking about speaking on behalf of the church to government authorities.
2:2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
so then in verse 12
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
The context is no different than today where a company will forbid employees from talking to the press, only the person highered for public relations gets to speak to the press on behalf of the company. It is the same with the church, there should be two or three "elders" who speak on behalf of the church to the press and to government officials. Think how much damage has been done to the testimony of Jesus by people, like yourself, proclaiming loudly that Paul "believes a woman should not teach".