Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
OK, so one of the verses is this:
1 Corinthians 1:12-13
What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
So Evangelical, here is where I am having a hard time following you.
I understand that you are saying if a denomination says "they are of Luther" then that is denominationalism and is sin. This position could be supported by this verse and verses in Galatians.
But if the LSM has 419 elders sign a loyalty pledge to Witness Lee as the "master builder" then that is not sin.
I don't understand. How is that not an example of saying "I follow Witness Lee"?
According to you all denominations should be condemned, but I don't understand why the Local Church Movement wouldn't also be considered a denomination?
OK, here is another verse that from your reference on Denominations:
Galatians 1:6-10
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.
I have taken issue with Witness Lee, saying that his teaching on MOTA was "a different gospel", that his teaching on "deification" is contrary to the teaching we received from the apostles, that his teaching on the "ground of the church" doctrine is a distortion of the gospel. Why aren't these verses applied to him?
Here is another verse reference you gave me:
2 John 1:9
Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
This has been my point, that Witness Lee went beyond what was taught by the apostles and you told me you don't care. So when Witness Lee does it you don't care, but when anyone else does it they are sinning and disqualified. Do you see where I am getting confused?
Here is another verse you gave me that is confusing me:
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
You see? Jesus Christ died for us, and we were baptized into the name of the Triune God, so why are we being asked to sign a loyalty pledge to Witness Lee? He didn't die for us. This just bothers me, I can see how it is contrary to the NT and I can see how it is sectarian. I agree with you that sectarianism is sin, but somehow you agree that this verse is sectarian but that what they do in the Local Church is not sectarianism? I don't get it.
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