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Old 09-11-2016, 09:21 AM   #256
DistantStar
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Default Re: James

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Originally Posted by Igzy View Post
As for faith = salvation + works, you are confusing cause and effect.
Yeah, math does not apply to reasoning.

Faith leads to works.
A leads to B
A -> B

That does not mean that works lead to faith
B -> A

This is called affirming the consequent and it is a logical fallacy.

Or rather, the argument seems to be:
Faith leads to salvation
A -> B

Faith also leads to works
A -> C

That does not mean that works (C) leads to either A or B or both.
C -> B, or C -> A, or C -> A+B
Once again, this would be affirming the consequent.

If James is considered authoritative, then the general Christian view that works is a result of faith, but not necessary for it, is the acceptable view.

Edit: To make it clearer, consider this.
If it rains, there will be clouds
A -> B

That does not mean that if there are clouds, that it will rain
B - A

It could be possible, but it is not contingent.
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