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Originally Posted by Evangelical
It is easy to disprove your claim that real faith = faith+works. What works did the thief on the cross have? None. Yet Jesus said "today you will be with me in Paradise". So this disproves your claim about "real faith" being faith+works. The thief just believed, and was saved without works.
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I never said real faith = faith +works. Did you even read my post? I don't appreciate you twisting my words into something I didn't say.
I said faith = salvation + works.
Try to understand what I meant instead of twisting it around. "=" means "results in."
That is,
real faith results in salvation and works.
If you have real faith it will issue in salvation which the thief of the cross experienced. It will also issue in works, which he would have no doubt experienced had he lived. Actually he did have a work, his confession of the Lord on the cross while he was dying could be viewed as a work. He wasn't saved by that work, he was saved by his faith. But his faith issues in life change, i.e. works.