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Originally Posted by Evangelical
I know God did not tell you that, I don't believe you.
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I know you don't believe me. You have too much invested in the current regime to believe me.
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The topic was denominations not the ground of the church.
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Sorry. I was never a good scholar. So there is some difference in the topics? All I ever heard from Lee was on the proper ground. That's not related to the topic of denominations?
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Up from Babylon, where the sects abound,
From division we must all rise up!
Brothers, Babylon’s not the proper ground;
From division we must all rise up!
Rise up! Rise up!
From division we must all rise up!
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Or you never heard that song, either?
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And we don't believe that those in denominations are not saved.
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True that. But no building up, right? All darkness, vanity and confusion?
On a related subject, I no longer believe that "God raised up Watchman Nee on the virgin soil of China" to recover the proper church ground, or save us from Mystery Babylon or the denominations or however you want to phrase it.
Watchman Nee was a man like you and I, and Lee's narrative was self-serving to the extreme. Watchman Nee used his revelation to gain and maintain earthly status. The Communists imprisoned him because of his status in church. "Kill the head and the body will die." Christ wasn't the head of the church, Nee was.
How did Nee get his revelation, anyway? From Jessie Penn-Lewis? I thought sisters were not allowed to teach.
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In 1926, when he was suffering from tuberculosis, Ni began his first major book, The Spiritual Man, which sought to explain spiritual formation in terms of biblical psychology, especially the radical distinction between “soul” (self-consciousness) and “spirit” (God-consciousness). Published in 1928, the three-volume work has been called basically a translation of Penn-Lewis’s Soul and Spirit, published ten years earlier, though Ni did not make that clear. These early efforts laid the theological foundation for his future teaching ministry.
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http://www.bdcconline.net/en/stories/n/ni-tuosheng.php
Nee used women in his formative years, as sources of and conduits to power. Once he established power he dropped them. God didn't raise up Watchman Nee; Watchman Nee did. And China wasn't virgin soil, either: it was corrupted and satanic as any other earthly soil. Lee's narrative was blatantly self-serving. I no longer believe it. Like everything else, the "denominations" topic in the hands of Nee and Lee was merely a vehicle to power.