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Originally Posted by HERn
Your premise is specious at best. David was very accomplished at killing predators that threatened the flock, Saul was a serious scholar and was good enough at oratory to convince the chief priests to allow him to arrest followers of the way, after his conversion and submission to Jesus his natural capabilities were captured and used by the Lord. Jacob was hardly a mommas boy; he led his family through many difficulties and dangers. I heard Ron Kangas say that WL had the capacity to govern a nation, he was that smart. If WL was a humble servant of God why did he push so many business ventures on the saints? If he was God's Oracle why would he promote his sons to abuse the saints. His son abused sisters in the ministry office. He submitted to no one, he allowed no peers, he was deceived by Satan and used by Satan to deceive. The Spirit's focus is on Christ, the Father's focus is on Christ, the blended brother's and elders focus is on THE MINISTRY. Christ is not the ministry.
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If we are capable, then God does not need to give us His Spirit or spiritual gifts. The fact that God gives us the Spirit is evidence enough that we are NOT capable, regardless of how much natural ability we may have.