[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

Harold,

As long as the current two parties survive, the others will be gnats flying around the piles the two big ones are. It will only be with the effective destruction of the units that are the Republican and Democratic parties that there would be any meaningful movement away from them. If they collapse, there will be alternatives provided. And as long as there are at least two significantly different groups formed out of the one, then the crawl to the bottom will begin. We will look more like the British system, or maybe even the German system where there is always some kind of coalition between two of the parties before there is any real change. And sometimes the notion of "strange bedfellows" is very appropriate. It might not always be the most conservative and the second most conservative that gets together (or the other end) it might be the two in the middle, or one of the extremes and the one in the middle but toward the other end.

I kinda wish that were an option.

And 8 years ago I would have been very happy to vote for the McCain/Lieberman ticket. I know that neither was conservative enough for the right or liberal enough for the left. But it often turns out that it is in the broad no-man's land in the middle that real solutions are found.

Alas, it was not to be. And putting Palin on the ticket did nothing to bring the far right into the fold for McCain.

So now it seems they have what they want. And it isn't going to be much better. The GOP has been in the habit of shooting itself in the foot way too often.

The speed at which our country is moving left is frightening. I doubt there will ever be another Republican president. What the Democrats got going for them is just overwhelming.

• The progressive liberals control most major universities
• The progressive liberals control the mainstream media
• The progressive liberals control the minority vote
• The progressive liberals control the immigrant vote with the borders wide open
• The progressive liberals control nearly every major city
• The progressive liberals control the unions
• The progressive liberals control all those on the government dole
• The progressive liberals control nearly all the sports and entertainment icons
• The progressive liberals control the voting process, successfully stopping all attempts at voter registration ID's

Those in the conservative movement just don't "fight" as well as the liberals do. It's harder to fight when things like morality and a conscience restrict you.