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Old 03-03-2016, 11:07 AM   #18
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Default Re: James Barber - History of Witness Lee

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Originally Posted by JJ View Post
Did anyone listening to James Barber's "history" notice how he talked about "the one flow", referring to Witness Lee's ministry in the 1960's and it being a continuation of Watchman Nee's ministry?

I recall such a concept being in the recovery literature from the very beginning.... "The Divine Stream".

It seems to me that thought just grew and grew until it caused us to totally loose sight of Jesus, the real source of any flow, choking out whatever flow we initially had. And, keeping "the flow" contained to just ourselves dammed off any outflow, and drowned us in the dead sea.

Has anyone done a critique of this thought?

I did a Bible Word search on the words stream and river, and didn't find support for the stream or river of God belonging to only one or two ministers of God. But, I'd like to hear from others on this.
Eph 4:4-6 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

I'm going to split this up into two posts. Regarding the matter of the one flow/stream, I don't see where they would have found that in the Word. What seems to be the case throughout LC history, is the tendency to try to simplify everything saying that it needs to be "one". "One flow", "one divine stream", etc. The verses above are frequently mentioned in the LC, and they like to refer to them as the seven "ones". The reason I make mention of this is because from what I've seen, LCers don't care much about what these "ones" actually are. For all they care, the verses can read something like "one, one, one..."

WL's logic was along the lines of since the word "one" occurs so many times, it shows how important "oneness" is. And they will talk about "oneness" all day long, but at the end of the day, they don't really care for what these verses actually talk about. If they really saw that there is "one Body", then they wouldn't dare to call only themselves the "one Body" and purposely separate themselves from everyone else. If they really saw that there is only one faith, then they wouldn't dare belittle and mock other Christians saying that they only believe in a "low gospel". None of this matters to those in the LC. These verses primarily serve to give them an excuse to emphasize their own set of "ones": one flow, one ministry, one publication, one trumpeting, etc. I'm still looking to see where these "ones" are to be found in the Bible. I haven't found them yet.
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