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Originally Posted by TAT
Let's see what awareness quoted:
1 Ti. 2:1-3 John 12:15 John 18:35-36 (he mentioned King David and the promise the Lord Jesus gave the 12 to sit on 12 thrones)
Then he quoted the Gospel of Thomas (it is from here that you get to know our Lord Jesus?)
He mentioned Antonin Scalia, Obama (4 times) and a quote from
Brooke Allen. Moral Minority: Our Skeptical Founding Fathers (Kindle Locations 802-805). Kindle Edition.
If you are really concerned about the Lord Jesus why do you quote Him so rarely? And why in your signature you have a quote from Jimi Hendrix and not from the Lord Jesus?
Would you like to explain where did you get your last quote and what it means? It sounds like that there is no need to look for the “historical Jesus” (the same words zeek used commenting on Mat. 18:17) because He never existed, like the false gods of old?)
"Job 25:6 how much less man, who is a maggot, and the son of man, who is a worm!"
No amount of intellect or education can grant one immunity where matters of the heart and faith are concerned.
So watch out! There's a serpent in every paradise!
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix
Heroes fail, when you get to know them ... then they fall, just like the gods of old. Why else quest for the historical Jesus?"
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Well, now we're getting somewhere ; a conversation. I'm only addressing what was directed at me.
One thing I can say bro Tat, is that, you are very astute. But I failed big time from the get-go with you. Cuz I failed to say:
Welcome to Alternative Views.
Where I am the moderator ... cuz I'm prooly the most alternative out here.
So let's have some fun. Is fun okay bro TAT?
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Originally Posted by TAT
Let's see what awareness quoted:
1 Ti. 2:1-3 John 12:15 John 18:35-36 (he mentioned King David and the promise the Lord Jesus gave the 12 to sit on 12 thrones)
Then he quoted the Gospel of Thomas (it is from here that you get to know our Lord Jesus?)
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Well your verse quotations sure got me beat. I'll have to work harder. I can cut and paste whole gospels ... and thrown in some Gospel of Thomas to boot. Can you beat that bro TAT?
But why do that? Y'all can read 'em on your own.
I quoted the GoT in support of bro zeek's question about the kingdom of heaven being within us. And by the way, there are early Christian and New Testament scholars that believe the GoT came up from the oral period, before any of the books of the NT were written; even Paul's, the earliest.
So the words of Jesus in the GoT may be more accurate than those found in the canon, written decades later, by God knows who, or whom. Only God knows.
In the end, we can not only not get at any of the autograph copy's of the books of the NT, we can't get at the autograph copy of any of the books Jesus wrote. So the actual historic Jesus is lost to us. Maybe if, all the books of him that, "the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen," we'd have a better chance at getting at the historic Jesus. And all the Jesus scholars, seeking to find the historic Jesus, wouldn't be so frustrated.
To save everybody from having to read a bodacious long post, I won't comment on, Jimi Hendrix, that we're worms, the intellect, and the serpent in every paradise. They're in my tag line, and the purpose of them is to make people think. I see they've done a fine job of it. Amen Jesus. Thank you for people that think. Where would we be without 'em? Tho I can find no Bible verse to support that thinkers have any special access to the kingdom of heaven, I think it might be so. Jesus was obviously a thinker. That much we know about him.
Now let's get back to politics and the church.
Pat Robertson, and Jerry Falwell Jr. have endorsed Trump. Shouldn't Jerry Falwell Sr. be spinning in his grave? Wasn't it Cruz than announced his run at Liberty U.?