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Originally Posted by OBW
... it is not really that Ohio said something wrong, just may have said it wrong.
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I wouldn't say
Ohio said something wrong; he'd have to say something like, "God is evil", for me to say, "wrong." And in all the years that he and I have posted, here, I have no recollection of him violating Christian understanding thus.
When I say, "Not so fast", I mean, "There is more than merely, 'reality consists of 'x''". Jesus took this method with the Pharisees: "You say that reality is 'x', but why then does scripture say 'y'?" Yes that is logic.
Especially if you consider Jewish readers, or people with Jewish understanding: There is One God. I think that we should be respectful of and inclusive of all scripture, and all reading, in coming to understanding, collectively, rather than simply saying, "reality is 'x'" and dismissing out of hand all who can't get it. And ignoring all scripture that doesn't line up with today's version of 'reality'.
My own understanding was deeply informed by a certain person who wasn't a Jew or a disciple, at least an open one. The Roman Centurion. "I also am a man under authority". Jesus marveled at his understanding.
Notice that a name isn't mentioned in the message which the Centurion's friends gave to Jesus. The name of Caesar. But it was clearly understood: the centurion was "one" with Caesar. Operationally, the centurion 'was' Caesar. If he got mad, Caesar was mad, because his will was to do the will of Caesar. So if the servants disobeyed, they disobeyed Caesar, because the centurion spoke forth the word of Caesar.
"The word that I speak to you is not My own, because the Father speaks through Me." Operationally, Jesus is indeed Jahweh. Jesus is the Father. Yet the monotheistic God is not dumped to accommodate our understanding; in fact the monotheistic God, Jehovah of the Jews, is standing and speaking right in front of us, through His Servant Jesus! The Sendee and the Sender are one.
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Ohio and I are one, just as Jesus is one with the Father. I believe this. And though I often exasperate him, I think that he agrees. Because we are one in Christ.