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Originally Posted by OBW
And there is a possibility that this view is accurate. I look at the available history from before the U.S. and see what eventually came here and note that the early days in the U.S. were not like that. There are two (actually probably more) possibilities here:
1. He truly repented of what went before and came here with a different attitude.
2. He came here hiding his dark side until he could gain sufficient control over us.
My reasons for thinking the second is more likely is that while he was still gentle with us here in America, he went back to Taiwan and cleaned house in a way that was a lot like times yet to come in the U.S. To me, that casts a big cloud over any claim of genuineness in those "Jesus People" days in the 60s and early 70s.
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OBW's first point is covered in the following email (2001 Don Hardy)
Basically, Paul Ma would only verify to you, that WL
seemed to be repenting, while Paul was travelling
with him the early 60s. For Paul told some of us:
"he would just sit in a chair facing the corner, and
groan, and say: "O Lord, Mercy! O Lord, Mercy!"
for a LONG time (hours?)." That touched me Steve.
So I do believe when WL ministered in the early 60s,
he was forgiven (...for we have a "big" God!), renewed
and a clean vessel, to impart God's precious realities
to us at Elden.
OBW's 2nd point is covered in a translation from a portion of Larry Chi's book.
www.twoturmoils.com/TaipeiHistory.pdf
The book by Larry Chi was sent to me from his home in San Francisco in 2003. The selected portion from the book on the Taipei church history was professionally translated here in Seattle. Also, Larry Chi discusses
from the Taipei saints' viewpoint,the life practices they heard about in the U. S., and that, before long, was introduced to them by visiting saints, stirred up to share their enjoyment with them.
I had two copies of the book that ended up in the hands of two Taiwanese brothers in my area, who wanted to read the book. I got the part I wanted at the time, but it would be good to retrieve the books, if I can, and see now what the teachings were that the brother addressed in the book that he was concerned about. The whole book has not been translated into English that I know of.
(In the writing, the names were replaced with blank lines for presenting on the forum.)