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Gubei · 12-09-2008, 04:51 PM

Hope,

1. My background

I know this is very stupid thing to say in this point in time discussing God's word, but I had a lot of experience in business. About ten years ago, the amount of sales revenue I handled was about U$ 1 billiion a year. And I do not know much about Chee Foo and Tronto, but I have had my church life in a local church for about 20 years, scrutinizing the teachings based on the Bible and other teachers' teachings. So, in a sense, I have somthing to say.
I just want to stop here. More speaking about myself doesn't seem to be so proper. By the way, I'm not a English native speaker. Hopefully, you use plain English when talking with me. Some colloquial expressions are hard to understand.

2. Your book

I'm interested in your book. Please let me know where I can get it. If possible, please send me, if it is in softcopy, whether by attaching it in this thead or by personal message.

3. 2 cents on Watchman Nee's understanding of the matter of ground of locality

WN presented his analysis of the truth of the ground of locality mostly based on the example on the early church. But there is a big difference between when the early church was set up and now. Simply speaking, the churches in Asia in the Bible was the literally the first churches in that regions. So there was no problem about appointing and accepting "one set of elders." WN draw the principle of one set of elders from this context and background.

But as time goes on, there came a lot of other preachers, other saints, and maybe with other elders than those set up by Paul. I think Paul did not condenm them, judging from below verses in Philipians.

[14] Because of my chains, most of the brothers in the Lord have been encouraged to speak the word of God more courageously and fearlessly. [15] It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. [16] The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. [17] The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. [18] But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice, (Philipians 1, NIV)

It seems to me that "one unitary eldership in a city" was not so important to Paul at that time. But WN emphacized one unitary eldership when he published his analysis.

I know my analysis is not so profound, so I think it's worth only 2 cents for now, but I'm planning to delve into it in more detail later.

By the way, I am planning to discuss the matter of apostleship soon with Igzy. Hopefully, you can be with us.

Gubei

12-09-2008, 04:51 PM	#120
Gubei Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 145	Re: "Early Nee" vs. "Later Nee" Hope, 1. My background I know this is very stupid thing to say in this point in time discussing God's word, but I had a lot of experience in business. About ten years ago, the amount of sales revenue I handled was about U$ 1 billiion a year. And I do not know much about Chee Foo and Tronto, but I have had my church life in a local church for about 20 years, scrutinizing the teachings based on the Bible and other teachers' teachings. So, in a sense, I have somthing to say. I just want to stop here. More speaking about myself doesn't seem to be so proper. By the way, I'm not a English native speaker. Hopefully, you use plain English when talking with me. Some colloquial expressions are hard to understand. 2. Your book I'm interested in your book. Please let me know where I can get it. If possible, please send me, if it is in softcopy, whether by attaching it in this thead or by personal message. 3. 2 cents on Watchman Nee's understanding of the matter of ground of locality WN presented his analysis of the truth of the ground of locality mostly based on the example on the early church. But there is a big difference between when the early church was set up and now. Simply speaking, the churches in Asia in the Bible was the literally the first churches in that regions. So there was no problem about appointing and accepting "one set of elders." WN draw the principle of one set of elders from this context and background. But as time goes on, there came a lot of other preachers, other saints, and maybe with other elders than those set up by Paul. I think Paul did not condenm them, judging from below verses in Philipians. [14] Because of my chains, most of the brothers in the Lord have been encouraged to speak the word of God more courageously and fearlessly. [15] It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. [16] The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. [17] The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. [18] But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice, (Philipians 1, NIV) It seems to me that "one unitary eldership in a city" was not so important to Paul at that time. But WN emphacized one unitary eldership when he published his analysis. I know my analysis is not so profound, so I think it's worth only 2 cents for now, but I'm planning to delve into it in more detail later. By the way, I am planning to discuss the matter of apostleship soon with Igzy. Hopefully, you can be with us. Gubei __________________ Less than the least Last edited by Gubei; 12-09-2008 at 04:56 PM.