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Originally Posted by Igzy
The difference is none of us are following Max Rappaport or considering him an apostle. I'm not going to follow any teacher who isn't humble enough to admit some of his mistakes and especially who won't apologize for injuring people. Witness Lee and his inner circle (which is still in power) have never admitted wrongdoing for anything. I have zero respect for that. It's pride and hubris, plain and simple.
Do you have children Donnali? Did you never apologize to them when you were wrong? Did you think your status and authority depended on never admitting you were wrong? In my experience apologizing to your children is one of the best things you can do for your relationship with them
Lee never did that. And his heirs to power never have either. As far as I'm concerned they are abusive parents. And they get no respect from me for it. I wouldn't follow that kind of person to the 7-11, let alone any place important.
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Of course, I have apologized to my children, not so much when they were little but after they were grown, and I have a very good relationship with my grown children.
So, here's to stirring up the hornet's nest again. The title "apostle" and "oracle of God" have been bandied about on here. In all the years, in all the meetings, in all the readings of Brother Lee's books I don't recall one sentence where he said, "I am THE oracle of God or I am an apostle." I might be wrong but I don't recall him every saying that. I remember him saying he was a small "potato" like the rest of us.
So, how far up do your put any man, preacher on a pedestal? How far up do they have to be before they crash and burn?
If I have a problem with a brother or a sister and I go to them with my offense, their reaction will depend on how I approach them, right? If I come all haughty and demand a repentance I am pretty sure I would still be waiting for it. But, if I come with a pure heart, wanting the offense to be cleared up I would pray very much before ever approaching that brother and sister. So, they don't apoligize? Then I can bring it to two others to resolve and if that doesn't help, then to the church.
I have learned a secret in this last 15 years. Sorry, I had to cut and paste this to a response to another Forum member recently.
2 Cor. 2:10 “But whom you forgive anything, I also forgive; for also what I have forgiven, if I have forgive anything, it is for your sake in the person of Christ.” I have been deeply hurt by my family, the saints, people I have worked for, most especially by my husband. Even when he apologized I couldn’t let go of the hurt. The wall between us was pretty high and thick. I realized that if I took those hurt feelings to the end of the line in my thinking, that eventually I would be divorced, regardless what the Bible said. So, at one point I stood on this last verse and even told him that I forgave him “in the person of Christ”. I said that completely by faith and I stood on that verse. And everytime the Satanic thoughts came, “well, what about this and what about that”. I repeated that verse to Satan. It was a struggle, but gradually that hurt inside of me began to dissipate until today it is completely gone. They are many dear ones that have offended me w/o apology. Do I hold on to the offense until the judgment seat of Christ? When I turn my heart to the Lord and begin to pray to contact the Lord in my spirit I ask forgiveness if I have offended Him and ask Him to shine on me to expose anything in my being, even a wrongful “tone” in my speaking to others. We are all in this process of transformation. I want to continually keep my account before the Lord clear, don't you?
Your sister in Christ,
Donnali
p.s. If I had had a personal offense with either Brother Lee or his family, or any leading brother I would have gone to that one in person.