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Indiana · 11-19-2008, 01:21 AM

I find this thread most valuable and enlightening, to say the least, after having read now through each post.

I will now have an added dimension in my understanding due to the writing efforts of many, especially two brothers who have been spearheading this thread. KTS and Ohio, perhaps I have helped you in the past, but now you have helped me. I refer to major helps in our concepts related to things Witness Lee, Watchman Nee, the local churches and the work.

Now brother Hope is here to help the focus become clearer on mistakes made concerning the church and the work. - This is a significant time. It is a time of transition.

I will share only what word has come to me toward the end of my reading. It is related to the following word by Don Rutledge:

-Just as critical is the concept of “Oneness.” The scriptural oneness is the “oneness of the Spirit” and “the oneness of the Faith,” and of course the reality of the “One Body of Christ.” Never are we urged to always join in oneness with a spiritual enterprise or a burden of a servant of the Lord. Rather, regarding the practice to preserve the “oneness of the Body” please see 1 Cor 12:23-25, "and those members of the body, which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our unseemly members come to have more abundant seemliness, whereas our seemly members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked, that there should be no division in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another."

Please note that any preferential care is a division in the body. If those who “Handed over” are given more preference, then there is the practice of dividing the body of Christ, a most serious matter. In fact, to preserve the oneness of the Body we must give more abundant honor to the weaker ones. In other words, WN should have urged his co-workers to shower love and care on those who had not “handed over” their possessions. –

There was a day when it would have taken something substantial for me to question Witness Lee. But that day came. And, now I must question also Watchman Nee.

Division in the Body is the issue here.

In the 1986 Pledge of the Elders to follow Witness Lee as the commander-in-chief, included in that Pledge was the taking care of saints including the backslidden ones. Refer to www.twoturmoils.com/pledge.pdf. The Pledge was a reflection of Lee’s own words and exhortations, which Ray Graver and Benson Phillips responded to in their composing of the “pledge” (or Letter of Agreement) to follow brother Lee and his leadership.

But here is how Witness Lee himself responded to a backsliding one. This is a representative example of how many people were treated in the churches who did not fall in line with the new way “flow”. www.twoturmoils.com/PaperintheWind.pdf

www.twoturmoils.com/dissenters.pdf

The Lord is surely leading us, step by step.

11-19-2008, 01:21 AM	#2
Indiana Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 717	Re: A Paper in the Wind I find this thread most valuable and enlightening, to say the least, after having read now through each post. I will now have an added dimension in my understanding due to the writing efforts of many, especially two brothers who have been spearheading this thread. KTS and Ohio, perhaps I have helped you in the past, but now you have helped me. I refer to major helps in our concepts related to things Witness Lee, Watchman Nee, the local churches and the work. Now brother Hope is here to help the focus become clearer on mistakes made concerning the church and the work. - This is a significant time. It is a time of transition. I will share only what word has come to me toward the end of my reading. It is related to the following word by Don Rutledge: -Just as critical is the concept of “Oneness.” The scriptural oneness is the “oneness of the Spirit” and “the oneness of the Faith,” and of course the reality of the “One Body of Christ.” Never are we urged to always join in oneness with a spiritual enterprise or a burden of a servant of the Lord. Rather, regarding the practice to preserve the “oneness of the Body” please see 1 Cor 12:23-25, "and those members of the body, which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our unseemly members come to have more abundant seemliness, whereas our seemly members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked, that there should be no division in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another." Please note that any preferential care is a division in the body. If those who “Handed over” are given more preference, then there is the practice of dividing the body of Christ, a most serious matter. In fact, to preserve the oneness of the Body we must give more abundant honor to the weaker ones. In other words, WN should have urged his co-workers to shower love and care on those who had not “handed over” their possessions. – There was a day when it would have taken something substantial for me to question Witness Lee. But that day came. And, now I must question also Watchman Nee. Division in the Body is the issue here. In the 1986 Pledge of the Elders to follow Witness Lee as the commander-in-chief, included in that Pledge was the taking care of saints including the backslidden ones. Refer to www.twoturmoils.com/pledge.pdf. The Pledge was a reflection of Lee’s own words and exhortations, which Ray Graver and Benson Phillips responded to in their composing of the “pledge” (or Letter of Agreement) to follow brother Lee and his leadership. But here is how Witness Lee himself responded to a backsliding one. This is a representative example of how many people were treated in the churches who did not fall in line with the new way “flow”. www.twoturmoils.com/PaperintheWind.pdf www.twoturmoils.com/dissenters.pdf The Lord is surely leading us, step by step. Last edited by Indiana; 11-19-2008 at 02:03 AM.