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Originally Posted by OBW
Yes, but there is some second-hand evidence that does not involve the Chinese Communist government that supports the fact that what he was accused of was true. So even though falsehoods may not have been defended against, it does not therefore follow that charges were all necessarily false.
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I didn't mean to infer that the evidence of the Chinese Communist government was false, or irrelevant. Just trying to show that a confession in Chinese court was de rigueur (required by fashion, custom, or etiquette). And that should be remembered when we say, "He confessed!"
But the larger point was that, just as WL ran a kangaroo court on Jane Anderson and John Ingalls, in which accusation was tantamount to fact, so also did WN get it from the Commies. And for the same reason: harmonious functioning of the social order demands complete submission to the face of social authority. The Big Boss wants you taken down, and so you go down. Due process is irrelevant.
I must repeat my word at the beginning of the "Asian Mind and the Western Mind" thread: Western culture is not superior to Asian culture. The Chinese method of social arrangement has a 5,000 year history, so they say - then it must have some utility.
The dilemma here is not Asian culture, but that we don't see it and recognize it for what it is in the LC movement. Then the issues it engenders, when superimposed upon Western culture, morals, and values become a perennial source of confusion, frustration, and misunderstanding. In my case, I misunderstood Chinese ways for Biblical spirituality, and attempted to follow them in the LC "church life". But eventually I found out that where the LC church life and the Bible didn't coincide, the LC church life won, every time.
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Originally Posted by OBW
And it makes that story told by Lee that called all the elders in Shanghai to be ignorant and stupid for charging Nee with immorality into itself a stupid and ignorant story. Well, maybe it is more like it made us (previously) into stupid and ignorant people to think that the ones who were there could fabricate something so ridiculous as living in the same house with his mother or an aunt was somehow immoral. Those elders weren't stupid. We were for buying Lee's ridiculous fable.
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We had to buy the ridiculous fable because "good order in the church" demanded it. You don't want to go against the Big Boss, do you? Even today, in the PRC you can get fired for criticizing Mao, 40 years after his death. Culture, my friend. Culture.