[Hope]

From OBW

Hope: Are new expressions really that helpful? The LC has a lexicon full of new expressions and we know where that took us. What is “DC fellowship” and “AC fellowship?” I’m not really asking. It just stands out as pointless to mention something with no definition (at least that I could find in a few minutes of quick searching in this thread). Did I miss something somewhere?


Hope's statement to which Mike was refering

We had two wonderful week-ends first in Westminster and then Arizona. The Lord led us to consider “Our Fellowship” based upon 1 John 1:1-7 and the portion in Romans chapter 1 verses one, eight and twelve: Rom 1:8, First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, because your faith is being proclaimed throughout the whole world. 12 that is, that I may be encouraged together with you while among you, each of us by the other's faith, both yours and mine. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "But the righteous man shall live by faith."

A couple of new expressions came out which were very helpful. One was the difference between DC fellowship and AC fellowship. The other was some practical help on how to individually stay in the fellowship with the Lord when we have an “Elijah Moment” see 1 Kings 19.

Igzy's post

My guess would be that AC fellowship means two-way fellowship (alternating current), while DC fellowship means one-way fellowship (direct current).

Good job Igzy. Mike, I admit I just threw the expression out to see if there was any interest. Sorry about only getting you a little miffed. Our time was all about the wonderful fellowship that should be had among the believers. Too often the fellowship, though very real, is like DC current. It only flows one way. On the other hand the fellowship which Paul and John sought was definitely two way, "from faith to faith." While the DC fellowship is true and helpful it does not have the power of the mutual fellowship from faith to faith sort of like AC current. The expressions are not to be canonized but were just something spontaneous and illustrative of the interaction among the believers at those particular times and places.

As far as “Christ and the Church” please accept the use of the terms in a pure sense rather than an LC/LSM mantra. Most of the believers who were meeting in the local churches prior to 1973-4 did not understand the expression to mean Christ and the LC or Christ and the ministry or Christ and the recovery. Things did go that way. But from the beginning, for most of the saints, it was not so. One mistake I must state I see repeatedly is placing the template of later years in the LC over what was in the hearts and minds of most who were there in the beginning. But we became somewhat like the frog in the boiling water. The water is heated very slowly until the frog is boiled and dead. UG, what a coarse illustration but take it for what it is worth.

Hope, Don Rutledge, a believer in Christ Jesus who is seeking to be a true disciple