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Originally Posted by aron
How Judas Iscariot died and whether an angel really struck Herod's side who fell down, eaten by worms is not central to the story as I see it.
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To me we're chopping at the leaves and ignoring the root.
This is the virgin birth implications thread. What's the implications if the virgin birth wasn't true? Does it affect or salvation here today? I know it will make a difference to the Jesus is God folks, but it won't be a fatal blow. Does the virgin birth either way, happened or not, have anything to do with receiving the Spirit today; with being born again, or living by the Spirit?
The other implication effect is what I'll call the ify-land. Questioning the virgin birth is questioning that the Bible is the word of God. Denying it means the Bible is not trustworthy.
And that brings us into ify-land. Where we can't be certain of anything.
I realize I don't have room to talk. I'm a member of the three amigos on AltVs -- Awareness, zeek, & Dave -- and we've all talked against inerrancy of scripture, based just upon as much as 400,000 variants in the mss (maybe more).
We're honest about that. So let's be honest with questioning the virgin birth, and all its implications.