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Originally Posted by awareness
But what about John leaping in the womb when pregnant Elizabeth met pregnant Mary? Why would pre-born John do that for just a fallen pre-born man child?
Oh that's right, I forgot, you've taken an ax to Matthew and Luke ... and that story was just a product of Jesus mythmakers ... or later scribes.
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You are finally getting it
John: he did not know Jesus before the baptism, but afterward it was a completely different story.
Mark: no comment one way or the other. Wanted to quote Psalm 2:7 but Peter and Paul had already used it for proof of resurrection.
Matthew: We need to fix Mark: let's throw in evidence of foreknowledge: "I have need to be baptized by you." Because the baptism was just for show.
Luke: No wait. Let's have him leap in the womb.
Matthew and Luke, the original "virgignostics", causing disharmony in the gospels.
(traditional names used for convenience)