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Originally Posted by zeek
Weren't you indoctrinated in that belief as a child before you had reached the age when you could reason for yourself? If so, it isn't as if you reasoned your way to the belief. I doubt that as a child you were presented a balanced list of the facts for and against the proposition of virgin birth and a suggestion that you think about it and make up your own mind.
So far, you haven't presented a valid argument to support the virgin birth claim. Your responses on the subject seem to be emotional and personal rather than logical or evidence-based. Your indoctrinators did their job well.
But, in an adult conversation where your viewpoint is not supported by the ecclesiastical authority to silence, punish, excommunicate or send people to hell, all you have done is repeat the traditional claims as if stating them over and over makes them true. That's what we did in the Local Church.
If, unlike in church, we base our belief on whatever argument is most likely to be true based on the evidence, what do you have to present?
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The real issue here is not my upbringing, the LC, or indoctrination, but that you don't agree with my views or my faith, so you make rude derogatory comments like "
your indoctrinators did their job well" yada, yada.
Contrary to what you have been
indoctrinated into believing,
there is no scientific evidence for anything which has happened in the Bible. Get over your need for it. We can't duplicate creation in the laboratory, we can't duplicate the Passover in the laboratory, we can't duplicate the virgin birth in the laboratory, nor can we duplicate His death, resurrection, or ascension in the laboratory.
God's recorded activities with mankind are not science, they are history. Your demands for scientific evidence are just a cheap excuse for you not to believe. Plain and simple. Your choice. Live with it. Die with it.
Since you claim that my answers are emotional, and not scriptural reasonings, which are based on trustworthy eye-witnesses records, I decided to get a little "emotional" just for you.
Moderator, can't this new software give me an "ignore" feature for certain posters?