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Old 05-26-2015, 04:20 PM   #36
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Default Re: Virgin Birth questioned: the research

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Originally Posted by Ohio View Post
Of course Joseph knew.

Why do you assume that they "conspired?" To conspire is to "to plan together secretly to commit an illegal or wrongful act." Joseph's actions during this time were according to Roman law, Jewish law, and the instructions of the angel of God.

OBVIOUS REASONS?
Think about it. The bible already records the implications of Mary, though a chaste virgin, being pregnant outside of marriage -- she was about to be "put away privately" by Joseph her fiance, who was a righteous man. Their society was very much different from our own. Think about how many CNN reporters and paparazzi would have hounded the couple from Bethlehem to Egypt to Nazareth to Jerusalem back in those days.. God desired that His Son grow up in a normal Jewish household as a normal child with parents and siblings. That is how He accomplished it. Obviously you don't approve. Get over it bro!
I think "conspired" came to mind when you said something like, "Only Mary knew, and she kept it secret for obvious reasons." Maybe, since you say to conspire is to do something illegal, it's the wrong word.

Hey I can think up all kinds of scenarios from the scraps of info in the only sources we have right now ... of course the 4 gospels.

Here's one, just for fun:
Both Mary & Joseph kept the virgin birth a secret. And carried on and let on like Joseph did it ... and that their child was just a normal child like everyone else. They didn't let on or betray to others that their son Jesus, was God. Yet according to the record -- I'm still playing here -- by divine revelation, visitation, and intervention, they knew He was. Maybe that's why Jesus never out right says he's God. Quite the contrary "Call no man good but God."
That's really quite a good scenario I just drew up. It states clearly that Jesus was God. But it's of my own making. As are the stories coming down to us from tradition. They really are brainwashing, like bro Timotheist stated.

And that Mary inform the apostles about the virgin birth is just one of them. We have no evidence of such ... in any of the records. It can't even be found on the web. And the web is full of wild ideas and claims.

But I really enjoyed your scenario of CNN, reporters, and paparazzi following them around. Maybe then we'd have it all on youtube.
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