[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by Toledo

It doesn't rub salt in anyone's wounds to remind them that not every place and not every brother was the same

Though a true statement, this is rather irrelevant to the fact that there was widespread abuse in the Local Church. Of course not every place or every brother was the same. Nobody has ever said they were!

It is fair to commiserate with the damaged saints who were hurt by improper administration in many places. It is not fair to insist that every place was improper.

Nobody on this forum (or anywhere far as I recall) has ever said such a thing. Actually it has been Witness Lee and his followers who have called other Christians, their ministries and meetings improper (and much worse), and they continue to do so to this very day.

Insisting that every place was improper leaves us with the misunderstanding that there was no truth ever spoken at any time through Watchman Nee or Witness Lee, that there is no practical oneness available today, and that the personal experience of Christ testified by many is simply untrue. Such would seem to be the position that many have taken; I find it untenable.

Repeating something does not make it true. "No truth ever spoken at any time through Nee or Lee"??? I have never heard anybody EVER say anything even close to this. This is how Witness Lee reacted to criticisms from without and from within - he retaliated with absurd, gross overstatements and exaggerated claims, and then just hoped that something would stick. It made his arguments and self-vindication really, really weak.

Of course there is practical oneness today! Again, who has ever said there isn't? And you know what, I am going to experience practical oneness here in just a matter of hours with the several hundred other brothers and sisters I break bread with every Sunday morning. And, get this, we are going to experience practical oneness without badmouthing one single Christian or Church in our city, or tell them that we are the church and they are not...can you imagine that!

Finally, nobody has said that anybody's personal experience of Christ is untrue. Who ever said such a thing? I was in the LC for many, many years and had a lot of personal experience of Christ. Why would you say such a thing?